Swhack! 24 March 2006
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00:02:29 <JibberJim> libby!
00:02:32 <JibberJim> that's hyphenated bancus
00:02:37 <JibberJim> .wn super-grass
00:02:45 <phenny> super-grass 1. a police informer who implicates many people
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00:02:57 <JibberJim> .wn super---grass
00:03:00 <phenny> super---grass 1. a police informer who implicates many people
00:03:02 * Arnia waves to all and sundry
00:03:07 <Arnia> Can't forget the chips
00:03:13 <JibberJim> .wn c-h-i-c-k-e-n
00:03:16 <phenny> c-h-i-c-k-e-n 1. the flesh of a chicken used for food
00:03:20 <phenny> c-h-i-c-k-e-n 2. a domestic fowl bred for flesh or eggs
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00:03:23 <phenny> c-h-i-c-k-e-n 3. a person who lacks confidence, is irresolute and wishy-washy [...]
00:03:40 <JibberJim> .wn a-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------nt
00:03:43 <phenny> a-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------nt 1. social insect living in organized colonies
00:03:49 <JibberJim> now that's not right
00:05:12 <libby> jinnerjim!!
00:05:34 <JibberJim> who he?
00:07:17 <libby> heh, er
00:07:29 <libby> jibberjim!
00:07:39 <JibberJim> libby!
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00:27:28 <bancus> .wn transmogrification
00:27:32 <phenny> transmogrification 1. the act of changing into a different form or appearance (especially a fantastic or grotesque one)
00:27:38 <bancus> shit, that's actually a real word
00:27:44 <sbp> hello
00:27:44 <bancus> I thought Bill whatever made it up
00:27:47 <phenny> sbp: 23 Mar 17:03Z <Morbus> tell sbp that the Epic Mounts series is hilarious: http://www.somethingawful.com/artofwarcraft/
00:27:50 <phenny> sbp: 23 Mar 17:39Z <Morbus> tell sbp that I'm talking with a compnay about making a Ghyll Card Game, online, and getting paid for it. ;)
00:27:54 <JibberJim> bill and ted
00:27:54 <phenny> sbp: 23 Mar 18:40Z <Morbus> tell sbp
00:27:57 <phenny> sbp: 23 Mar 18:40Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-ely/
00:28:04 <lisppaste2> phenny pasted "Messages for sbp" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/18218
00:28:12 <JibberJim> sbp, why does .wn -a------------------n--------------------------t---------------------- return teh word for ant?
00:31:37 <sbp> JibberJim: ooh, dunno. cool though
00:31:42 <bjoern_> .w [c][h][i][c][k]
00:31:45 <phenny> I couldn't find [c][h][i][c][k] in WordNet.
00:32:17 <bjoern_> .w italics
00:32:20 <phenny> I couldn't find italics in WordNet.
00:32:50 <Arnia> .w banana
00:32:53 <bjoern_> .w WordNet
00:32:54 <phenny> banana 1. any of several tropical and subtropical treelike herbs of the genus Musa having a terminal crown of large entire leaves and usually bearing hanging clusters of elongated fruits
00:32:55 <phenny> I couldn't find WordNet in WordNet.
00:32:58 <phenny> banana 2. elongated crescent-shaped yellow fruit with soft sweet flesh
00:33:29 <bjoern_> .w 04 HELP99
00:33:32 <phenny> I couldn't find 04 HELP99 in WordNet.
00:33:42 <Moira_> hello
00:33:54 <bjoern_> it's Moira_!
00:34:04 <Moira_> yup :)
00:34:49 <bancus> mmmm
00:34:51 <bancus> soft sweet flesh
00:35:17 <bjoern_> .w hungry
00:35:19 <phenny> hungry 1. feeling hunger
00:35:22 <phenny> hungry 2. (usually followed by `for') extremely desirous
00:35:53 <bjoern_> .compare hungry "extremely desirous"
00:35:58 <phenny> hungry (104,000,000), "extremely desirous" (19,500)
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00:41:27 <sbp> .reload wordnet
00:41:30 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.wordnet' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/wordnet.py'> (version: 2006-03-24 00:38:42)
00:41:41 <sbp> .w [c][h][i][c][k]
00:41:43 <phenny> sbp: Words must match the regexp ^[A-Za-z0-9' -]+$
00:41:50 <sbp> .w aojgAJIGAPJGOIPAJRgajirg par
00:41:53 <phenny> sbp: Words must match the regexp ^[A-Za-z0-9' -]+$
00:41:56 <sbp> .w boing
00:41:59 <phenny> I couldn't find boing in WordNet.
00:42:05 <sbp> haven't fixed the multiple - thing yet
00:42:57 <bancus> Is phenny named after Fenny?
00:43:25 <sbp> Fenchurch? partly; see http://swhack.com/logs/2004-07-05#T23-52-52
00:44:29 <sbp> bancus: oh, by the way, mediaeval sword fighting: awesome!
00:44:49 <bancus> I occaisionally mention it on my LJ.
00:45:08 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus ooh, congratulations about the Ghyll Card Game! let's hope something comes out of that. will you be seeking input from the Ghyll Scholars?
00:45:10 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
00:45:38 * Arnia waves in a sinusoidal fashion at sbp
00:45:39 <bancus> aha
00:46:51 <bancus> slilu
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00:50:25 <sbp> hellos Arnia!
00:50:31 <sbp> .reload wordnet
00:50:33 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.wordnet' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/wordnet.py'> (version: 2006-03-24 00:48:02)
00:50:37 <sbp> .w a---------------n--------------t
00:50:39 <phenny> sbp: That's not in WordNet.
00:50:41 <sbp> .w ant
00:50:44 <phenny> ant 1. social insect living in organized colonies
00:50:47 <sbp> JibberJim: there we go, all fixed
00:51:09 <sbp> thanks
00:51:42 <Arnia> sbp: How goes it?
00:51:59 <sbp> not too bad, thanks. just got up
00:52:04 <sbp> so am doing morningly stuff
00:52:05 <sbp> .t
00:52:08 <phenny> Fri Mar 24 00:49:47 GMT 2006
00:52:12 <sbp> which is good, because it's morning
00:52:20 <bjoern_> sleepyhead
00:53:02 <sbp> what! I'm up earlier than probably 99.5% of the rest of the country! :-)
00:53:21 <Arnia> sbp: the wonders of nocturnal lifestyles
00:53:50 <sbp> aye
00:54:08 <Arnia> I've installed compiz and it is so nice
00:54:15 <bjoern_> I think it's more like 18 or so hours later up than the rest
00:54:28 <Arnia> Doesn't play well with Inkscape's dialogues though
00:54:47 <Arnia> But I think that is more an issue with Inkscape's WM hinting
00:55:11 * Arnia has almost recovered from his birthday
00:55:24 <sbp> hehe
00:56:18 <bjoern_> hmm, so .w has asciiisms now...
00:56:36 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus "This video has been removed by the user." - the new bigfoot movie seems to have gone. I presume that you have a copy of it though? you might be one of the few people in the world! :-)
00:56:39 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
00:56:50 <sbp> bjoern_: yeah, but so does WordNet, presumably
00:57:52 <bjoern_> well, better asciiisms than stuff like "Because of IRC's Scandinavian origin, the characters {}|^ are considered to be the lower case equivalents of the characters []\~, respectively." I guess...
00:58:19 <sbp> [00:55] <sbp> .w touché
00:58:19 <sbp> [00:55] <phenny> I couldn't find touché in WordNet.
00:58:19 <sbp> [00:55] <sbp> .w paté
00:58:19 <sbp> [00:55] <phenny> I couldn't find paté in WordNet.
00:58:28 <sbp> heh, yeah
00:58:38 <bjoern_> utf-8 or win1252?
00:58:44 <sbp> ah, point
00:58:44 <bjoern_> does phenny care?
00:58:49 <sbp> yes, presumably
00:58:54 <sbp> .cp small letter e with acute
00:58:57 <phenny> 00E9: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (é)
00:59:13 <sbp> [00:56] <sbp> .w touché
00:59:13 <sbp> [00:56] <phenny> I couldn't find touché in WordNet.
00:59:13 <sbp> [00:56] <sbp> .w paté
00:59:13 <sbp> [00:56] <phenny> I couldn't find paté in WordNet.
00:59:42 <bjoern_> well, those words are (c)opyrighted...
01:00:01 <bjoern_> .gc scandinavianism
01:00:03 <phenny> scandinavianism: 12,100
01:00:06 <sbp> yeah, any word ending in capital letter a with tilde is copyrighted, I think
01:00:18 <sbp> except for those that aren't, of course
01:00:38 <bjoern_> fairy fairy obviously so
01:00:57 <Arnia> sbp: But is the index of those things which aren't copyrighted copyrighted
01:01:01 * Arnia hides
01:01:08 <sbp> .w spudgeimunify
01:01:11 <phenny> I couldn't find spudgeimunify in WordNet.
01:01:15 <sbp> .reload wordnet
01:01:18 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.wordnet' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/wordnet.py'> (version: 2006-03-24 00:58:07)
01:01:19 <sbp> .w spudgeimunify
01:01:22 <phenny> I couldn't find 'spudgeimunify' in WordNet.
01:01:23 <sbp> no more stupid bold
01:01:36 <bjoern_> .w bold
01:01:39 <phenny> bold 1. a typeface with thick heavy lines
01:01:42 <phenny> bold 2. fearless and daring
01:01:45 <phenny> bold 3. clear and distinct [...]
01:01:50 <bjoern_> use a stupid bolt instead?
01:02:00 <sbp> yes, perfect equivalent
01:02:02 <sbp> or, well...
01:02:07 <sbp> .thesaurus bold
01:02:10 <phenny> bold synonyms: adventurous, assuming, audacious, awless, bantam, courageous, daring, dauntless, enterprising, fearless, forward, gallant, heroic, intrepid, resolute, unafraid, undaunted, valiant, valorous
01:02:49 <bjoern_> to enterprisingly go where no one has gone before
01:03:23 <sbp> the .thesaurus command is really crap
01:03:36 <bjoern_> .ety thesaurus
01:03:38 <phenny> "1823, 'treasury, storehouse,' from L. thesaurus 'treasury, treasure,' from Gk. thesauros 'a treasure, treasury, storehouse, chest,' from root of tithenai 'to put, to place.' The meaning 'encyclopedia filled with information' is from 1840, but existed earlier as thesaurarie (1592), used as a [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=thesaurus
01:03:46 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus uhhhhhh... at http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/elybfsketch2.jpg
01:03:48 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
01:05:23 <bjoern_> .gc GIrc - Google IRC.
01:05:26 <phenny> GIrc - Google IRC.: 440
01:06:12 <sbp> .gc "Google IRC"
01:06:14 <bjoern_> reminds me that - as of today - "the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) has 404 Members" -- http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List
01:06:15 <phenny> "Google IRC": 812
01:06:24 <sbp> oh, I just got a Google Pages account
01:06:31 <Arnia> Google Pages?
01:06:36 <sbp> nice use o' the through the web editor
01:06:42 <sbp> http://pages.google.com/
01:07:15 <Arnia> ah
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01:10:01 <sbp> it's kinda nifty. one or two bugs
01:10:08 <sbp> but the concept has been waiting for a long time
01:11:48 <bjoern_> hmm http://images.google.com/images?q=sbp+wallpaper&safe=off ???
01:12:03 <bjoern_> hmm http://images.google.com/images?q=sbp+wallpaper&safe=on
01:12:08 <bjoern_> I wonder which is worse...
01:14:02 <sbp> safe off is slightly worse
01:14:27 <sbp> actually, quite a bit. that's bizarre
01:14:34 <sbp> I need to create my own competitor wallpaper
01:15:08 <sbp> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
01:15:27 <sbp> except one of the latter URI's images has a Robbie Williams link
01:15:33 <sbp> hence it is decidedly the worst
01:16:12 <bjoern_> but colts kill people, while, whatever the one is about, does not
01:16:20 <bjoern_> but yeah, +1 on the competitor wallpaper
01:17:02 <bjoern_> .img bjoern_ wallpaper
01:17:05 <phenny> bjoern_ wallpaper: http://www.kso.cc/image/hahahaha/wallpaper-bart-vader-simpson.jpg
01:17:24 <sbp> see, now that's pretty cool
01:17:35 <sbp> you already have awesome wallpaper
01:17:41 <bjoern_> it's also the only one
01:20:13 <sbp> it's all that's needed
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02:21:12 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's BigJibby!
02:21:36 <BigJibby> heya Monty
02:21:36 <Monty> im going
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02:56:24 <Monty> But what does jetscreamer have to do with the price of fish?
02:56:26 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
02:56:27 <Monty> pre-DJ
02:56:43 <jetscreamer> monty i am the fishgod
02:56:47 <Monty> twe, that's interesting if working in Spain falls mainly on everyone's nerves =(
03:02:33 <sbp> hehe. where is twe, anyway?
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03:29:56 *** jsled changed the topic to: "The baby was a giggle factory. She sourced raw giggles, processed them, and turned them into finished giggles for the marketplace."
03:32:07 <sbp> Onstad?
03:32:11 <jsled> word.
03:32:17 <sbp> ha! yes
03:32:19 <sbp> awesome
03:32:23 <jsled> The best baby copy of many years.
03:33:57 <sbp> here is a transcription of today's post
03:34:01 <sbp> er, today's strip
03:34:02 <sbp> [[[
03:34:02 <sbp> VROOOOOOO
03:34:02 <sbp> CHK!
03:34:02 <sbp> KRAK! KRAK!
03:34:05 <sbp> VREEEEE! FLUP FLUP FLUP
03:34:05 <sbp> KROOOSH!
03:34:06 <sbp> CRASH!
03:34:09 <sbp> GLUG GLUG GLUG
03:34:10 <sbp> KA-THUNK KA-THUNK KA-THUNK KA-
03:34:12 <sbp> KRUNCH
03:34:16 <sbp> Okay, shoot, man, shoot!
03:34:18 <sbp> KRAK
03:34:20 <sbp> POUF
03:34:22 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=03232006
03:34:41 <sbp> yet oddly enough it's one of the best Achewoods ever
03:34:48 <sbp> today Onstad is a genius
03:36:04 * sbp emails verbosus the transcription
03:36:10 <jsled> This is, in fact, why I just reloaded that ... I was hoping he had the next one auto-setup to post in the evening.
03:36:18 <sbp> ooh
03:36:23 * jsled bites nails even further into the quick.
03:37:26 <jsled> Ack! On trying to review recent achewood, I get an actually quite excellent error: CGI Error
03:37:26 <jsled> The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers.
03:37:27 <jsled> "
03:37:41 <jsled> misbehaving application!
03:38:05 <sbp> heheh
03:38:12 <sbp> BAD CGI
03:38:15 <sbp> TAKE AWAY YOUR TOYS
03:41:55 <jsled> I can't help but think father Smuckles was in one of the two KROOSH jeeps. I imagine it will be met with an eventual shrug, but I still have short fingernails.
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03:57:09 <sbp> jsled: Ash was wondering the same thing
03:58:47 <sbp> even if he wasn't in the Jeeps, he said he was watching from the tower
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04:00:30 <bjoern_> this http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/65091/ShowPost.aspx is great
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04:09:25 <Ash> but seriously
04:09:31 <Ash> this is the best thread in a while
04:16:00 * bjoern_ discovers the "What Would Paula Do" comment...
04:34:36 * sbp wonders if http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/insert.html#i_CTRL-O is emulatable in emacs
04:36:31 <sbp> hmm. "You can also switch to Vi temporarily, to execute just one command. This is done by typing C-c \." - http://w3.pppl.gov/info/viper/Packages_that_Change_Keymaps.html
04:39:43 <sbp> but C-h, e.g., doesn't work when viper-mode is even in level 5
04:39:58 <sbp> so it'd have to be something which loaded viper-mode, ran C-c \, then quit viper-mode after
04:40:03 <sbp> FUN
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04:45:30 <bjoern_> C-w C-t C-f \?/
04:48:39 <bjoern_> .compare EMACSript EMACScript EMACsScript
04:48:44 <phenny> EMACScript (353), EMACSript (11), EMACsScript (5)
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04:56:05 <Ash> sbp: viper mode is retarded
04:56:49 <Ash> there's a reason that the vi mode used to be called 'VILE'
04:57:57 <sbp> yeah, but it's good for trying out vi commands without facing the agony of using vi
04:58:16 <sbp> this is why I've also set it up to run just a single command and then quit viper
04:58:20 <sbp> since viper itself is a bit agonising
04:58:23 <Ash> weird
04:58:29 <Ash> i just, you know, start up a term with vi
04:58:37 <sbp> eeeeeeeevil
04:58:46 <sbp> if I've already got a file open in emacs...
04:59:03 <Ash> although really I'm not in the habit of trying out a command in vi
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05:00:10 <sbp> yeah. I was mainly wondering if there were certain vi commands that it'd be nice to have shortcuts for in emacs
05:00:55 <sbp> but most are multiple commands anyway, so this is kinda pointless
05:01:56 <Ash> try recording keyboard macros
05:01:57 <Ash> yay
05:02:25 <sbp> well, I'm mainly looking for things that I do often but don't have shortcuts for
05:02:39 <sbp> keyboard macros are awesome when you have to do something weird lots of times
05:02:45 <Ash> so you can write elisp
05:02:48 <sbp> right
05:02:58 <sbp> and usually I bind stuff to C-c [char]
05:03:12 <Ash> ah
05:03:13 <sbp> which seems to be the Right Way to Do It
05:08:59 <sbp> shame <TAB> doesn't complete in apropos
05:11:11 <bancus> "Flash mobs, cuddle parties, neo-burlesque, robot pets, emo, speed dating, network gaming tournaments, live-action remakes of cartoons... I suppose if you'd really been on the ball, you could have figured out in advance what would pass for a culture amongst a bunch of grown-up latchkey kids, couldn't you?"
05:11:17 <bancus> ~ Colby Cosh
05:14:25 <sbp> grumble: [[[
05:14:25 <sbp> /* This isn't strictly correct if execute-extended-command
05:14:25 <sbp> is bound to anything else. Perhaps it should use
05:14:25 <sbp> this_command_keys? */
05:14:25 <sbp> strcat (buf, "M-x ");
05:14:31 <sbp> ]]] - src/keyboard.c
05:14:37 <bancus> heh
05:14:46 * sbp has, of course, rebound it to C-c e
05:15:18 <sbp> that's pretty stupid. there doesn't seem to be any other way to achieve it
05:17:32 <sbp> hmm, there's command-execute
05:17:41 <sbp> but it takes a symbol: how do I turn a string into a symbol?
05:18:53 <bancus> string-to-symbol?
05:20:38 <sbp> bancus: there is string-to-char, string-to-int, string-to-list, string-to-number, string-to-sequence, string-to-syntax, and string-to-vector
05:20:48 <sbp> but no string-to-symbol
05:20:48 <bancus> huh
05:20:58 <sbp> string-to-syntax sounds kinda possible...
05:21:14 <sbp> string-to-syntax
05:21:14 <sbp> Function: Convert a syntax specification STRING into syntax cell form.
05:21:48 <sbp> I don't think that's right...
05:21:51 <bancus> hm
05:22:02 <bancus> can you prepend a ' to the string and call string-to-syntax?
05:22:56 <bancus> and eval it?
05:23:02 <bancus> or maybe just eval the string... hm
05:23:09 <sbp> looks like intern might work
05:23:18 <sbp> Function: intern name &optional obarray
05:23:18 <sbp> This function returns the interned symbol whose name is name. If there is no such symbol in the obarray obarray, intern creates a new one, adds it to the obarray, and returns it. If obarray is omitted, the value of the global variable obarray is used.
05:23:22 * bancus doesn't really know much about lisp, but likes to think he fakes it well.
05:23:47 <bancus> looks about right, except for the obarray stuff
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05:24:44 <sbp> whoo, that worked
05:25:08 <sbp> yeah, but it looks like the global obarray is just the globals table for the current context, so it all works as expected
05:25:38 <sbp> one annoyance is that tab-complete now doesn't work
05:27:41 <bancus> dammit, you make me want to relearn emacs
05:27:45 <bancus> but the GUI emacs is fugly
05:28:41 <bancus> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUGLY
05:28:57 <sbp> yeah, it truly is horrid
05:29:04 <sbp> I use it in the term exclusively because of that
05:29:30 <sbp> "Note that <TAB> has this effect because in the minibuffer it is bound to the command minibuffer-complete when completion is available." - http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html#Completion
05:29:39 <sbp> so I need to turn that on in my custom reading from minibuffer...
05:29:58 <bancus> gvim is pretty :D
05:30:12 <sbp> heh
05:30:13 <bancus> although I use vim mostly in the console
05:30:14 <bancus> but still
05:30:29 * bancus is one of those hardcore vimmers who remapped his capslock.
05:30:51 <sbp> I'm not sure I've seen any GUI editor which is truly pretty, though that Gnome editor is quite nice. I forget its name
05:31:52 <bancus> gedit?
05:32:14 <bancus> compared to emacs, any gui editor is pretty
05:32:21 <sbp> oh yeah, gedit
05:32:28 <sbp> true
05:33:10 <sbp> the funniest thing about GUI emacs is that even if you change all the settings as much as you can, it's so slow that it still pops up the default immensely ugly emacs before slowly applying your changes
05:33:42 <sbp> I mean, why does it even do that? why does it load its own settings before the user's? sigh
05:35:49 <sbp> bah: "Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer"
05:36:45 <sbp> all I want to do is bind <TAB> to minibuffer-complete when calling read-from-minibuffer
05:37:01 <sbp> maybe there's some hook in read-from-minibuffer...
05:37:36 <sbp> joy, it's a built-in function
05:43:26 <est> everything should have a hook :)
05:53:01 <sbp> hmm. now I'm doing:
05:53:01 <sbp> (interactive (list (read-from-minibuffer
05:53:01 <sbp> "Command: " ""
05:53:01 <sbp> minibuffer-local-completion-map)))
05:53:08 <sbp> which does bind <TAB> to complete, but...
05:53:23 <sbp> it doesn't tab complete command names. I'm not sure what its completion list is
05:56:15 <sbp> oho, completing-read
05:56:19 <sbp> http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/elisp-manual-21/elisp_276.html
05:58:10 <sbp> so, the question now is which collection has all command-execute worthy symbols?
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06:02:31 <sbp> whoo
06:02:31 <sbp> (defun my-execute-extended-command (command)
06:02:31 <sbp> "Execute an emacs command."
06:02:31 <sbp> (interactive (list (completing-read "Command: " obarray)))
06:02:31 <sbp> (command-execute (intern command)))
06:02:57 <sbp> works well enough as far as I can tell
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06:21:09 <vIkSiT> hehe nice
06:28:12 <sbp> my-execute-extended-command is a misnomer; should be my-execute-command, I think
06:43:18 <vIkSiT> right
06:44:24 <bancus> searching google images for "doggystyle" had unexpected results
06:44:32 <bancus> I really never expected that it would index porn sites
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07:28:50 <sbp> .compare lambdaise lambdise
07:28:53 <phenny> lambdise (0), lambdaise (0)
07:29:00 <sbp> .gc lambda-ise
07:29:03 <phenny> lambda-ise: 39
07:29:09 <sbp> grumble
07:30:50 <sbp> .compare lambdaize lambdize
07:30:54 <phenny> lambdize (1), lambdaize (0)
07:31:01 <sbp> .gc lambda-ize
07:31:05 <phenny> lambda-ize: 58
07:38:04 <sbp> phenny: ask jcowan whether the trailing -a of a word is always dropped when adding -ise/-ize. for example lambda + -ize: does that make lambdaize, or lambdize? I suspect the latter
07:38:07 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when jcowan is around.
07:49:43 <Ash> english is full of crazy edge cases sbp
07:50:11 <sbp> yeah, though I'm not even sure what the general rule is here
07:50:18 <sbp> hard thing to Google for too
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08:28:46 * est glurble
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10:40:53 <Monty> howdy, iand
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12:33:21 * est ehehe
12:33:26 <est> scuse :o
12:34:12 <nsh> twe, where are you?!?
12:34:23 <crschmidt> .swhack twe
12:34:26 <phenny> crschmidt: 22 Mar 22:52Z <sbp> ask crschmidt where twe went!
12:34:27 <phenny> crschmidt: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-24#T03-02-33
12:35:08 <crschmidt> phenny: tell sbp http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-22#T18-11-43
12:35:10 <phenny> crschmidt: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
12:38:12 <nsh> .ety scapegoat
12:38:15 <phenny> "1530, 'goat sent into the wilderness on the Day of Atonement, symbolic bearer of the sins of the people,' coined by Tyndale from scape (n.) + goat, to translate L. caper emissarius, a mistranslation in Vulgate of Heb. 'azazel (Lev. xvi:8,10,26), which was read as 'ez [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=scapegoat
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12:47:50 <est> .swhack buttocks
12:47:54 <phenny> est: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-22#T02-08-37
12:50:06 * DrBacchus raises an eyebrow at phenny
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13:00:54 <Monty> lo est
13:01:18 <est> lo Mon
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13:50:48 <sbp> .cp rightwards arrow
13:50:51 <phenny> 0362: COMBINING DOUBLE RIGHTWARDS ARROW BELOW (◌͢)
13:50:55 <phenny> 2192: RIGHTWARDS ARROW (→)
13:50:58 <phenny> 219B: RIGHTWARDS ARROW WITH STROKE (↛) [...]
13:51:10 <sbp> .char ->
13:51:13 <phenny> - - Hyphen-Minus (-)
13:52:16 <sbp> .reload codepoint
13:52:18 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.codepoint' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/codepoint.py'> (version: 2006-03-24 13:49:46)
13:52:20 <sbp> .char ->
13:52:22 <phenny> ‒ - Figure Dash (‒)
13:52:28 <sbp> ...
13:52:56 <sbp> ...
13:53:00 <sbp> .char ->
13:53:02 <phenny> → - Rightwards Arrow (→)
13:53:45 <sbp> winnarh
13:56:19 <jsled> .cp blazing
13:56:21 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'blazing'.
13:56:29 <jsled> .cp b.*arrow
13:56:32 <phenny> 034D: COMBINING LEFT RIGHT ARROW BELOW (◌͍)
13:56:35 <phenny> 034E: COMBINING UPWARDS ARROW BELOW (◌͎)
13:56:38 <phenny> 0350: COMBINING RIGHT ARROWHEAD ABOVE (◌͐) [...]
14:02:16 <jsled> http://seibei.com/shop/intramural.html
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15:57:16 <paulproteus|lapt> I'd like phenny to join #jhuacm and service [!] us there.
15:57:42 <paulproteus|lapt> And #freeculture.
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15:59:56 <crschmidt> paulproteus|lapt: phenny is already in 20 channels, freenode's limit.
15:59:58 <crschmidt> .g phenny
16:00:00 <phenny> phenny: http://inamidst.com/phenny/
16:00:05 <crschmidt> source is available from there
16:00:30 <paulproteus|lapt> crschmidt, Oh, a limit, eh?
16:01:12 *** wallrazer is now known as redmonk
16:01:12 <paulproteus|lapt> If I get lilo to change the limit can you then put him in #freeculture, at least? (-:
16:01:18 <crschmidt> It's not my bot
16:01:29 <paulproteus|lapt> Right, it's sbp's.
16:01:55 <crschmidt> So, that question should be addressed to sbp
16:01:58 * paulproteus|lapt nods
16:02:02 <paulproteus|lapt> sbp, If I get lilo to change the limit can you then put him in #freeculture, at least? (-:
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16:02:29 <crschmidt> He's not around at the moment as far as I know.
16:02:32 <crschmidt> phenny: seen sbp?
16:02:35 <crschmidt> .seen sbp
16:02:37 <phenny> crschmidt: I last saw sbp at 2006-03-24 14:34:58 UTC on #d8uv.com
16:02:45 <crschmidt> .tZ
16:02:46 <crschmidt> .t Z
16:02:48 <phenny> 2006-03-24T16:00:19Z
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16:14:42 <wallrazer> grr
16:25:01 * jsled only makes it through 13 minutes of Sister Ray. :/
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16:51:01 <bancus> .wn speciation
16:51:04 <phenny> speciation 1. the evolution of a biological species
16:51:10 <bancus> :(
16:51:22 <bancus> .wn species
16:51:26 <phenny> species 1. (biology) taxonomic group whose members can interbreed
16:51:29 <phenny> species 2. a specific kind of something
16:51:32 <phenny> species 3. coins collectively [...]
16:51:39 <bancus> a specific kind of something
16:51:42 <bancus> that's awesome
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17:22:29 <bancus> /msg nickserv help register
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18:31:58 <BigJibby> eel: print("test")
18:31:59 <eel> test -- BigJibby
18:34:47 <bjoern_> '''Here is one of his quotes, verbatim: "When you combine people and technology, you have a very powerful combination." Think about that. Just let it sink in for a minute.''' -- http://www.forbes.com/technology/2006/03/22/vista-microsoft-ballmer_cz_dl_0322microsoft.html
18:35:24 <paulproteus|lapt> bjoern_, Yeah, that was a good one.
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18:58:40 <crschmidt> JibberJim: ping?
18:58:54 <crschmidt> .seen jibberjim
18:58:56 <phenny> crschmidt: I last saw jibberjim at 2006-03-24 18:10:10 UTC on #swig
18:59:01 <crschmidt> .t Z
18:59:03 <phenny> 2006-03-24T18:56:32Z
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18:59:11 <JibberJim> crschmidt!
18:59:41 <crschmidt> JibberJim! What's 'operation aborted' mean in IE?
19:00:06 <crschmidt> http://boston.openguides.org/?id=Buddha%27s_Delight;action=edit is apparently generating it
19:00:14 <JibberJim> It's an odd error,
19:00:40 <JibberJim> often happens with lots of included scripts being document.write'n into a page
19:00:45 <crschmidt> er, it probably wasn't a second ago, but should now :)
19:00:46 <crschmidt> hm
19:00:54 <crschmidt> I'm not doing anything odd here that I know of -- definitely no document.write
19:00:57 <JibberJim> if this is googlemaps code (it's not opened yet)
19:01:08 <crschmidt> and it's happening right when the page loads, but I'm not doing anything particularly odd
19:01:09 <JibberJim> then you want to add a defer to your script element
19:01:12 <crschmidt> (yeah, it is)
19:01:12 <crschmidt> oh!
19:01:13 <crschmidt> Duh
19:01:15 <crschmidt> I totally forgot about that
19:01:33 <JibberJim> rats 504 gateway timeout :-(
19:01:35 <crschmidt> I remember talking about this before now
19:01:54 <crschmidt> thanks!@!
19:02:10 <JibberJim> I've never exactly understood why it happens but it seems to be some sort of timing and ordering of scripts issue
19:02:16 <JibberJim> but defer makes it work :-)
19:02:47 * crschmidt nods
19:02:58 <crschmidt> pretend I typed "thanks!" instead of "thanks!@!"
19:03:08 <crschmidt> it makes me look less foolish. slightly ;)
19:03:17 <crschmidt> But yeah, that's almost definitely it, i have defer everywher but on this page
19:06:15 <Ash> thanks!#%!@!@%!@!!!!11
19:11:09 <bancus> Where would you source raw giggles?
19:11:16 <bancus> I'm guessing the bellies of teenage girls.
19:11:42 * bancus harvests some raw giggles.
19:11:52 * bancus , the sourge of Middle Schools.
19:12:00 <Ash> the same place you get pork bellies from probably
19:12:10 * Ash invests in giggle futures
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19:13:01 <bancus> Yay, I've already got investment.
19:13:11 <bancus> Uh-oh, watch out for the giggle bubble.
19:13:56 <JibberJim> maybe he bought really cheap giggles in the future expecting a big crash!
19:15:28 <danja> quick q. for any mac-heads
19:15:43 <danja> the iBook's decided I'm no longer in sudoers
19:15:49 * crschmidt sets his powerbook on his head
19:15:51 <danja> any suggestions?
19:16:10 * danja admires crschmidts poise
19:16:39 <crschmidt> danja: SysPrefs, Accounts (lower right)
19:16:44 <crschmidt> er, lower left
19:16:56 <crschmidt> then click the unlock, and you should ... oh wait
19:17:06 <crschmidt> well, you hsould see that some account in there is listed as 'admin'
19:17:12 <crschmidt> is yours listed that way?
19:19:50 <danja> boo, nope - there's just my (dannyayers) account, it asks for an admin login
19:19:58 <crschmidt> hm
19:20:04 <danja> - that was an admin login...
19:20:19 <crschmidt> mine says 'crschmidt' with 'admin' right under it
19:20:35 <danja> mine says 'standard'
19:20:56 <danja> setup cd time..?
19:21:06 <crschmidt> Not really sure
19:21:09 <crschmidt> never had that problem
19:21:17 <crschmidt> call apple? Got phone support?
19:21:20 <danja> no idea why it should have lost my rights
19:21:23 <crschmidt> Seems like something they'd probably know the fix to
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19:21:49 <danja> not got phone support (I don't think)
19:21:56 <crschmidt> ah, okay.
19:22:04 <bancus> I take it there's nothing akin to substituting /bin/sh for init on osx?
19:22:26 <bancus> (a nasty trick, but it works)
19:22:55 <danja> sounds promising
19:23:14 <bancus> (which is why you should always lockdown your bootloader
19:23:35 <bancus> (anyone who can control the arguments linux is given for startup can get root)
19:24:55 <danja> the biggest security threat around here is the cats dancing on the keyboard...
19:26:14 <danja> (I thought the mac was dead the other day, but discovered some trickster feline had dimmed it)
19:26:25 <bancus> heh
19:27:00 <bancus> Tip: If you heat up a pop-tart, do not let it cool down. The filling becomes something akin to glue.
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19:30:10 <BigJibby> eel: def randBigJibby() :any { print(<http://mattread.com/?randBigJibby>.getText().trim()) }
19:30:10 <eel> # value: <randBigJibby>
19:31:19 <BigJibby> eel: randBigJibby()
19:31:19 <eel> "Happy Independence Day to all you Yankees out there. I'm Canadian so I won't be celebrating, but I h..." [http://mattread.com/archives/2004/07/happy-independence-day/] -- BigJibby
19:31:31 <BigJibby> heh
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19:50:47 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
19:50:49 <phenny> jcowan: 22 Mar 22:42Z <sbp> tell jcowan hooray! you posted!
19:50:53 <phenny> jcowan: 07:35Z <sbp> ask jcowan whether the trailing -a of a word is always dropped when adding -ise/-ize. for example lambda + -ize: does that make lambdaize, or lambdize? I suspect the latter
19:51:22 <wallrazer> can anyone here hit http://www.wallrazer.com/
19:51:58 <jcowan> Empty directory listing.
19:52:33 <bancus> I'd pronounce it as the former, but I dunno, really.
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19:53:33 <wallrazer> jcowan: that's right
19:57:28 <jcowan> phenny: tell sbp I'd be inclined to intrude a consonant, producing lambdatize, or in that particular case to go with Guy Steele's existing precedent and use lambdacate.
19:57:31 <phenny> jcowan: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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20:02:34 * jcowan just found "Greekize" in /usr/share/dict/words. Urgh.
20:09:30 <jcowan> phenny: tell sbp the nearest analogue I can find is "quantized", which apparently derives from "quantum" by removing the ending; the final -a in "lambda" is not an ending, however.
20:09:32 <phenny> jcowan: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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20:15:35 <bancus> jcowan: What a travesty. I use "Greekinate".
20:16:01 <jcowan> But what do you use it for, bancus?
20:16:28 <bancus> To say I use it.
20:16:37 <jcowan> That's not using, it's mentioning.
20:16:47 <bancus> Quiet you.
20:17:04 <jcowan> We mention "our huge nuclear arsenal" so we don't have to use it.
20:17:11 <jcowan> --Doug Hofstadter
20:17:34 <bancus> We mention "our huge penises" so we don't have to use them.
20:17:44 <jcowan> You don't *have* to use it at all.
20:17:58 <bancus> If you say so.
20:18:14 <bancus> I think you're forgetting the ancient adage: "Use it or lose it."
20:18:17 <jcowan> Funny that that doesn't count as agreement: logically it would.
20:18:31 <jcowan> Use penis or lose bladder, would be more like it.
20:18:45 <bancus> It's a sarcastic agreement.
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20:19:05 <jcowan> I hear it more often used in doubt than sarcasm.
20:19:08 <bancus> And sarcasm does not succumb to logic, that's why we have a hard time of it in lojban.
20:21:31 <jcowan> phenny: tell sbp the word "Fletcherize" is a fine one.
20:21:34 <phenny> jcowan: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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21:11:00 <jcowan> http://www.partiallyclips.com/index.php?id=1367 <-- cartoon, funny, language, ws
21:12:13 <jsled> heh.
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21:23:47 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's themaximus!
21:26:13 <bjoern_> it's Monty!
21:26:21 <Monty> now have heard a keyboard macros are more nicks in time on the connection -- would either /usr/include/linux/zlib.h or years, yeah I still pops up in _getdecoder
21:26:50 <bjoern_> Please don't pop up in zlib Monty.
21:26:51 <Monty> boing
21:26:57 <bjoern_> da boing!
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21:29:15 <jcowan> Monty flies in Boing jets
21:29:22 <Monty> depends entirely if there is string-to-char, string-to-int, string-to-list, string-to-number, string-to-sequence, string-to-syntax, and sometimes genesis
21:40:32 <jcowan> .mw aha
21:40:40 <phenny> Entry: aha /ä-'hä/, interjection
21:40:43 <phenny> Entry: -- used to express surprise, triumph, or derision [...]
21:40:47 <jcowan> .mw oho
21:40:50 <phenny> oho: definition not found
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21:42:22 <paulproteus|lapt> So, uh, what is this channel?
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21:43:35 <bjoern_> Welcome to #swhack! This is a publicly logged channel, be careful not to say anything that'll destroy your potential future political career. More info at swhack.com
21:44:35 <Morbus> I recognize that name.
21:44:38 <phenny> Morbus: 00:42Z <sbp> tell Morbus ooh, congratulations about the Ghyll Card Game! let's hope something comes out of that. will you be seeking input from the Ghyll Scholars?
21:44:41 <Morbus> Cant' place it, but recogize it.
21:44:41 <bancus> Also those with +v are more likely than not bots.
21:44:41 <phenny> Morbus: 00:54Z <sbp> tell Morbus "This video has been removed by the user." - the new bigfoot movie seems to have gone. I presume that you have a copy of it though? you might be one of the few people in the world! :-)
21:44:45 <phenny> Morbus: 01:01Z <sbp> tell Morbus uhhhhhh... at http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/elybfsketch2.jpg
21:45:09 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp no, I have copies of the first two, but not the third. It was taken down before i could.
21:45:11 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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21:52:09 <jsled> Hmmm [[[
21:52:12 <jsled> On Thursday, more than 10,000 people filled the streets of Milwaukee in what was billed as "A Day Without Latinos" to protest efforts in Congress to target undocumented workers.
21:52:17 <jsled> ]]] - http://www.localnewsleader.com/kindred/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=163934
21:56:58 <wallrazer> yo Morbus
21:57:04 <wallrazer> wazzup
21:57:21 <jsled> wallrazer: so, is this the new nick ... are you moving away from redmonk?
21:57:37 <wallrazer> think of it as trying it on for size
21:57:42 * jsled nods
21:57:51 <jcowan> Shhh, jsled. Don't mention both names in the same line.
21:57:57 <wallrazer> heh
21:59:03 <jcowan> Google is watching you.
21:59:58 <wallrazer> it's funny, you have to get used to seeing the new nick in a chat window... with *your* words after it
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22:02:59 <kpreid> wallrazer: oh, that's who you are?
22:03:10 <kpreid> I find the sound quite bizarre
22:03:13 <wallrazer> kpreid: indeed
22:03:44 <wallrazer> kind of like transformers but without the swoshy clicking noises
22:04:32 <wallrazer> .gc wallrazer
22:04:35 <phenny> wallrazer: 1
22:04:39 <wallrazer> googlewhack!
22:04:39 <jcowan> Woohoo.
22:04:43 <jcowan> Nope.
22:04:52 <wallrazer> no what
22:04:54 <jcowan> Googlewhacks have to have two words that both appear in Google's dictionary.
22:04:58 <uxia> hi all
22:05:01 <wallrazer> oh.
22:05:08 * wallrazer is all dissapointed
22:05:38 <jcowan> e.g. "squirreling dervishes"
22:05:45 <jcowan> .gc "squirreling dervishes"
22:05:48 <phenny> "squirreling dervishes": 210
22:05:58 <jcowan> Oh, sorry, that's an old one.
22:06:14 <jcowan> .gc unnaturally deskperson
22:06:17 <phenny> unnaturally deskperson: 1
22:06:26 <jcowan> .gc biofueled merkin
22:06:28 <phenny> biofueled merkin: 1
22:06:32 <jcowan> Thuryago.
22:06:33 <wallrazer> that would make a good blog name
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22:09:01 <jcowan> It gets harder all the time because of the huge number of wordlist pages.
22:09:08 <jcowan> (A GW does not count if the sole hit is a wordlist.)
22:09:36 <uxia> lol...
22:09:58 <jsled> Hi uxia and welcome to #swhack. Note that this is a publically-logged channel, so you might mind what you might say if you might mind that others might mind what you might say.
22:10:03 <jsled> More info at http://swhack.com/
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22:11:18 <jcowan> 58 hits for "storkinator". Believe it -- or not!
22:11:52 <jcowan> And Google actually asks me if I mean "sporkinator" instead.
22:11:56 <jcowan> Which has a huge 386 hits.
22:12:30 <BigJibby> @google spell storkinator
22:12:34 <supybot> BigJibby: sporkinator
22:12:47 <wallrazer> @google spell wallrazer
22:12:49 <supybot> wallrazer: wallpaper
22:12:54 <wallrazer> awesome
22:13:00 <BigJibby> .w sporkinator
22:13:03 <phenny> I couldn't find 'sporkinator' in WordNet.
22:13:10 <kpreid> @google spell kpreid
22:13:12 <supybot> kpreid: No spelling suggestion made. This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for 02G04o08o02g03l04e to figure out.
22:13:18 <bjoern_> @google spell bjoern_
22:13:19 <supybot> bjoern_: No spelling suggestion made. This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for 02G04o08o02g03l04e to figure out.
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22:13:39 <bjoern_> @google spell g00gL3
22:13:40 <supybot> bjoern_: No spelling suggestion made. This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for 02G04o08o02g03l04e to figure out.
22:14:18 <kpreid> "wow, I just noticed:
22:14:19 <paulproteus|lapt> @gogole spell spl
22:14:20 <supybot> paulproteus|lapt: Error: "gogole" is not a valid command.
22:14:22 <kpreid> .gc kpreid
22:14:24 <phenny> kpreid: 47,900
22:14:29 <paulproteus|lapt> lol. What a typo...
22:14:31 <kpreid> I think google must be nuts
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22:14:46 <paulproteus|lapt> kpreid, Keep in mind that this channel is publicly-logged.
22:15:04 <paulproteus|lapt> So in principle, every time you Google yourself you boost the hit count.
22:15:16 <kpreid> sure, but that's *one*
22:15:30 <kpreid> I haven't been on swhack for
22:15:32 <kpreid> eel: 47900 / 365
22:15:32 <eel> # value: 131.23287671232876
22:15:36 <kpreid> years
22:15:38 <paulproteus|lapt> kpreid, Well, two - your name.
22:15:45 <paulproteus|lapt> Rather, your nick plus the query.
22:15:49 <paulproteus|lapt> So ca. 65 years.
22:15:56 <paulproteus|lapt> But the point remains. (-:
22:16:45 <BigJibby> eel: fortune()
22:16:46 <eel> # value: "#082: Your heart is pure, and your mind clear, and soul devout. -- http://cookiecast.org/"
22:16:53 <kpreid> I do have at least 100 results (that's all that Google will return), it just seems rather implausible that there would be 47K *more*
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22:17:29 <bjoern_> 381,000 for the nick I use IRL...
22:18:14 <BigJibby> .gc matt
22:18:17 <phenny> matt: 317,000,000
22:19:22 <jcowan> My blog posting is only #4 for "quiddity haecceity" (no quotes). Waah.
22:21:13 <uxia> what r d best qureies for google?
22:21:40 <uxia> queries*
22:21:59 <kpreid> Those which return what you're looking for.
22:22:16 <jcowan> "What is the best question, and what is the best answer to it?" --Epimenides
22:22:31 <jcowan> "The best question is the question you just asked, and the best answer is the answer I am giving." --the Buddha
22:22:33 <uxia> uhmmmm
22:24:00 <kpreid> .ety incite
22:24:02 <phenny> "1447, from M.Fr. enciter (14c.), from L. incitare 'to put into rapid motion, urge, encourage, stimulate,' from in- 'on' + citare 'move, excite' (see cite)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=incite
22:24:08 <kpreid> .ety cite
22:24:21 <phenny> "1483, from O.Fr. citer 'to summon,' from L. citare 'to cause to move, arouse, summon, urge, call,' freq. of ciere 'to move, set in motion, stir, rouse, call, invite' from PIE base *kei- 'to move to and fro' (cf. Skt. cyavate 'stirs himself, goes;' Gk. kinein 'to move,' [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=cite
22:25:27 <uxia> guys i asked ya'l question ...
22:25:37 <uxia> i hv 4 ... i need d remain plzzzzzzz
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22:27:52 <BigJibby> wat waws d ?-mark ?
22:28:15 <kpreid> uxia: The best by what criteria?
22:29:05 <uxia> i have the " ..", n some other 3
22:29:13 <uxia> i need more
22:29:16 <uxia> ;D
22:29:30 <BigJibby> .....
22:30:34 <kpreid> uxia: your request remains entirely unclear.
22:30:40 <uxia> i have the inurl ... n the parental directory
22:30:56 <uxia> uhmmm ... let me ask the way
22:31:12 <uxia> what r the google queries?
22:31:19 <BigJibby> intitle: define:
22:31:33 <BigJibby> like those?
22:32:22 <uxia> uhmmm ... nope .... am refferin to the signs (queries) given to google to boast the search result
22:33:30 <kpreid> Write good documents.
22:33:56 <uxia> I dont get that Kpreid
22:34:08 <kpreid> Clean HTML, low noise. Have plenty of relevant text. Use ALT. Avoid large boilerplate for each page.
22:34:11 <kpreid> Works for me.
22:35:14 <BigJibby> a short list of meta keywords can help too
22:35:41 <uxia> let me start from here .. how do i clean HTML?
22:35:53 <uxia> How do i reduce Noise?
22:36:17 <kpreid> BigJibby: all too often I find that a pile of keywords gets put in every page of a site with no care about whether *that page* is about the keywords
22:36:55 <kpreid> actual text in the body is sure to be more respected by Google
22:37:14 <kpreid> uxia: writing clean HTML: avoiding graphical page editors is a good start.
22:37:30 <kpreid> they attempt to do what you tell them, not produce good output
22:37:39 <kpreid> so you get all sorts of cruft
22:39:05 <uxia> do that mean i should add the * ... * in every query i give google?
22:39:12 <BigJibby> kpreid, I found keywords helped boost my rankings for those specific terms, but overall they didn't do much..
22:39:34 <jsled> uxia: What are what google queries?
22:40:38 <jsled> uxia: google does have help, that's probably more complete than here. http://www.google.com/help/refinesearch.html
22:40:47 <kpreid> uxia: when you said "boost[?] the search result" I thought you were talking about changing the position of *your* pages in results
22:41:32 <uxia> the "...", *...*, inurl, :..., parent directory .... these r what i have for now
22:41:47 <kpreid> uxia: http://www.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=352
22:41:48 <uxia> nah its not to change the page position
22:43:13 <BigJibby> http://www.google.nl/about.html
22:44:00 <BigJibby> http://www.google.nl/features.html
22:44:19 <uxia> the last link by BigJibby is not english
22:47:28 * BigJibby is in the wrong google
22:51:22 <jsled> uxia: what does "*...*" mean?
22:53:13 <uxia> lets say, u want to search for James on google ... U can tell google to search for exact with *James*
22:55:59 <BigJibby> .g 1000..2000 lb person
22:56:12 <phenny> 1000..2000 lb person: http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/478978
22:56:58 <jcowan> +James works too.
23:05:16 <BigJibby> eel: randBigJibby()
23:05:22 <eel> "I'm sitting in front of my computer on Sunday night trying to think of something to write about.... -- BigJibby
23:05:23 <eel> ..." [http://mattread.com/archives/2004/11/uh-something/] -- BigJibby
23:10:31 <BigJibby> Monty, howsit?
23:10:40 <jcowan> Monty?
23:10:42 <Monty> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html%23id271960&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddebian%2Bmplayer32%2Bamd64%26start%3D30%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
23:10:47 <Monty> No. CESU-8 example (supercorrected) annotated #18148 with python? so no danger of ram and develop for selected Innovators
23:10:47 <jcowan> Thuryago.
23:12:18 <BigJibby> Monty, you're running on an AMD64?
23:12:19 <Monty> speciation
23:12:37 <jetscreamer> The Debian GNU/Linux AMD64 HOW-TO
23:12:39 <jetscreamer> heh
23:13:07 <BigJibby> Monty, you need 64 bit for that?
23:13:07 <Monty> KRUNCH
23:13:11 <jcowan> jetscreamer: Why heh?
23:13:23 <jetscreamer> it's a valid link
23:13:44 <uxia> y'll r well behaved fellers
23:13:46 <jetscreamer> oh and you had typed that but i didn't notice as i was pasting :(
23:13:48 <uxia> i like that
23:14:11 <jetscreamer> s/you/he/
23:15:52 <BigJibby> would %23 be the start of the query in that url? or part of the path?
23:16:11 <jsled> Yay! http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70039923&trkid=33859 Le Samourai on DVD.
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23:26:24 <jcowan> phenny: hi
23:27:02 <jcowan> hi, phenny
23:27:04 <phenny> Hello jcowan.
23:27:22 <jcowan> hi, phenny!
23:27:24 <phenny> Hi jcowan.
23:27:32 <jcowan> hi, phenny?
23:27:39 * jcowan predicts phenny will be silent
23:29:13 <jcowan> phenny, remind me in 00:00:01
23:29:22 <jcowan> phenny, remind me in 00:00:01 X
23:29:48 <jcowan> Nope, doesn't work.
23:29:56 <jcowan> Ah. Rule commented out.
23:30:05 <jcowan> Bad spb, no dog biscuit!
23:32:47 <jcowan> .beats
23:32:49 <phenny> @21
23:32:50 <supybot> phenny: Error: "21" is not a valid command.
23:33:04 <jcowan> ooops.
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