Swhack! 9 November 2007
00:09:26 <kpreid> Anyone care to recommend a command-line XML munger?
00:09:59 <kpreid> In particular, what I want to do is things like:
00:10:28 <kpreid> curl <URL> | tagsoup | xmlthingy <XPath expression here> > just-lines-of-matching-text
00:15:36 <procto> I take to mean no one has that jaiku invite :>
00:20:39 <deltab> kpreid: xmllint
00:21:01 <deltab> kpreid: there's even xmllint --shell
00:27:05 <kpreid> deltab: what would I use for my example? --pattern? says "Used for debugging"
00:28:02 <deltab> maybe; I've used --shell <<<
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00:33:36 <kpreid> hmf, --pattern doesn't seem to do much and nobody talks about it. I'll keep --shell in mind
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01:06:53 <_bjoern> so I take it in the UK posessing information that might be useful for "terrorists" is now a crime.
01:07:09 <_bjoern> I would recomment you all turn yourself over to the authorities then.
01:07:19 <_bjoern> my typing is teh crapz
01:10:03 <deltab> that'd be Moira then :-)
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01:47:32 <Arnia> "I think that we need references on the spelling of each and every word. Straight to Webster's Dictionary! Can't be too careful! Also, references that the show will actually be called Doctor Who.
01:47:33 <Arnia> "Sure, common sense would make one think that it will still be called Doctor Who, but it could end up being called Marmelade! Also, I think it needs to be cited somewhere that William Hartnell will NOT be making an appearance.
01:47:33 <Arnia> "I know that there was a rumor of this circulating the hospital ward, so we need a citation that this will be the case--just because he's dead (we'll have to cite this too!) of course is not common sense enough...
01:47:33 <Arnia> "they could create a CGI William Hartnell. It could happen! (In case its not apparent, this is a poor attempt at showing that you don't need to cite was is plain common sense)."
01:48:24 <Arnia> -- discussions re: Voyage of the Damned on Wikipedia in reaction to someone going on a 'cite or die' crusade
01:49:47 <jsled> deltab: I've still not found something that does that command-line xpath selection bit, and I've raised the question here before...
01:50:17 <jsled> deltab: It was raised in another channel, too, more recently. I referenced the discussion here, but there might have been more movement; finding...
01:50:23 <deltab> "Those months were total time-pass." — film on Channel 4
01:50:36 <jsled> s/deltab/kpried/, sorry.
01:50:47 <deltab> jsled: not xmllint?
01:53:25 <jsled> I don't recall that xmllint does that, but maybe a newer version of the commandline does.
01:53:57 <jsled> I think the solution so far is XML::XPath, which has an `xpath` command line shim that does as requested.
01:54:51 <jsled> As near as I can see, there is only the `xmllint --pattern`, which I didn't have success with (though I didn't try much)
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02:04:32 <deltab> jsled: xmllint --shell
02:07:36 <jsled> so you say. It's not clear to me how that would work; do you have an example handy?
02:11:05 <crschmidt> xmllint --shell client_state.xml <<< 'cat /client_state/proxy_info'
02:16:10 <crschmidt> I can't figure out how to do it with KML; I'm assuming the difference is namespaces.
02:19:51 <jsled> And that will work for NodeSets or NodeLists or whatever they're called?
02:20:44 <crschmidt> I have no clue. I've never used it before now.
02:21:14 <crschmidt> I don't seem to be able to make it do anything useful.
02:21:25 <crschmidt> But I can't anything with xpath either :)
02:23:59 <thelsdj> anyone know anyone who knows sergey and larry?
02:27:12 <deltab> namespaces are a common stumbling block with xpath, since you have to tell the xpath evaluator about the namespaces
02:27:41 <crschmidt> Yeah
02:27:51 <jsled> thelsdj: might be more useful to find someone who sergey and larry know.
02:27:53 <crschmidt> deltab: 'setns' isn't in the "SHELL COMMANDS" subsection of my xmllint man page.
02:28:08 <crschmidt> But I found it via 'help' in the shell.
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02:29:49 <thelsdj> jsled: that too, make my question 'is anyone known my someone who sergey and larry know?'
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02:36:43 <betatesting> help
02:36:54 <betatesting> wheres the ai bot
02:36:55 <betatesting> ?
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02:43:09 <kamui> hello
02:44:23 <thelsdj> kamui: hello
02:44:24 <thelsdj> kamui: asl?
02:44:29 <kamui> 22 m canada
02:44:36 <thelsdj> sup
02:44:37 <kamui> is this a hacking chan?
02:44:54 <thelsdj> yes, but we charge CAD depending on level
02:45:03 <thelsdj> but taht will be easy for you as you are canadian
02:45:41 <kamui> what?
02:45:49 <thelsdj> what are you trying to hax?
02:46:23 <kamui> real hacking? security?
02:48:24 <kamui> thelsdj?
02:48:27 <thelsdj> omg u r so b0ring
02:48:40 <thelsdj> lets hax some1
02:48:49 <kamui> what do you code?
02:49:22 <thelsdj> javascript
02:49:24 <kpreid> > 1 + 1
02:49:34 <swhask> 2
02:50:08 <kamui> i want to get into facebook
02:50:35 <thelsdj> easiest way would be to hax teh gibson
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02:57:32 <jsled> aww.
03:00:48 <thelsdj> :(
03:11:33 <xororand> he visited us in #nethack.de too ;)
03:12:04 <xororand> first hax0r to arrive there
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04:56:59 <thelsdj> phenny: tell sbp about http://loltheist.com/2007/11/08/what-would-jesus-drink/ (another photo by fozzie)
04:57:01 <phenny> thelsdj: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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05:23:51 <thelsdj> .wik NOK
05:23:54 <phenny> "ISO 4217 code for Norwegian krone" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOK
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05:24:14 <Monty> it's nnm!
05:24:26 <thelsdj> Monty: do we care?
05:24:27 <Monty> anyway, I want:
05:27:35 <perigrin> The Hoobs on DVD? Me Too Monty!
05:27:37 <Monty> spoon-fed tennis consumes figurative CVS.
05:27:42 <perigrin> Damn
05:27:49 <perigrin> I wouldn't have guessed that one Monty
05:27:49 <Monty> O'NEILL
06:47:52 <laplink> thelsdj: You coming to visit?
06:48:40 <thelsdj> laplink: no, playing with forex market
06:50:48 <laplink> .wik forex
06:50:51 <phenny> "The foreign exchange (currency or forex or FX) market exists wherever one currency is traded for another." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex
06:52:22 <thelsdj> that seems a bit philosophical
06:52:31 <thelsdj> "I forex, therefore it is."
06:56:18 <perigrin> well but it's true :)
06:56:28 <thelsdj> http://www.elrivalinterior.com/actitud/Angustia-Escenica/TormentoDelAgua02.jpg
06:56:31 <perigrin> it's rather an absurd definiton
06:56:32 <thelsdj> there is so a loltheist in that
06:57:04 <thelsdj> waterboarding during spanish inquisition
06:57:14 <perigrin> I CAN HAZ JOB AS ATTORNEY GENERAL?
06:57:27 <thelsdj> perfect!
07:02:16 <thelsdj> http://thelsdj.org/nobodyexpects.jpg
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07:29:11 <perigrin> heh
07:38:45 <laplink> phenny: tell bjoern_ Happy iPhone Day! :-)
07:38:47 <phenny> laplink: I'll pass that on when bjoern_ is around.
07:46:50 * danja hits Arnia belatedly for "a countably infinite chain of levels of disagreement"
07:46:58 <laplink> [[[
07:46:58 <laplink> The studios "make deals with Steve Jobs, who takes them to the cleaners,"
07:46:58 <laplink> [former Disney chief executive Michael Eisner] said. "They make all these
07:46:58 <laplink> kinds of things, and who's making money? Apple! They should get a piece of
07:46:58 <laplink> Apple. If I was a union, I'd be striking up wherever he is."
07:46:58 <laplink> ]]] — <http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/07/briefly_mac_os_x_10_4_11_server_phase_for_ipod_eisner_on_jobs.html>
07:47:03 <laplink> Bitter much?
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08:03:16 <sbp> ㋡
08:03:18 <phenny> sbp: 00:10Z <patbam> tell sbp it seems to, crazy right? http://ruphus.com/svn/translit/output-ar.txt (at the end)
08:03:22 <phenny> sbp: 05:28Z <thelsdj> tell sbp about http://loltheist.com/2007/11/08/what-would-jesus-drink/ (another photo by fozzie)
08:04:35 <sbp> "we didn’t know about the gingerbread church because one of the kings done ate it when the other ones were sleeping. he tried to pass it off, but the others noticed and beat him to a bloody pulp with the myrrh chest and a gold baseball bat. gifts for a little boy, remember. that’s why there were only 3 kings from Orientar." - http://loltheist.com/2007/11/05/well-duh-you-cant-eat-frankincense/
08:11:11 * perigrin wishes yet again he were 3x smarter
08:11:35 <sbp> any particular reason?
08:12:11 <perigrin> in this case trying to wrap my head around futures and how to implement them in the microthreading API I'm creating in perl.
08:12:49 <perigrin> As well as how to make a more elegant API for CSP generation based on the same API
08:13:22 <perigrin> and being eaten by nagging thoughts about how Category theory could probably help with the metaobject programming involved
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08:13:34 <perigrin> if I actually understood Category theory ... or metaobject programming
08:13:37 <sbp> oh dear, Arnia's breaking our branes
08:13:46 <sbp> Jpotato: hello, welcome to Swhack
08:13:48 <perigrin> yeah .. he's being a very bad influence :)
08:14:17 <Jpotato> :) Jpotato? oh, be right back. wrong nick
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08:14:32 <perigrin> a /nick wouldn't have worked?
08:14:38 <sbp> chuckle
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08:14:57 <sbp> y0 m0d
08:15:03 <m0d> hi sbp
08:15:13 <sbp> what brings you to swhack?
08:15:15 <sbp> asl plz
08:15:19 <perigrin> ... j0p0t@t0?
08:15:41 <m0d> Jpotato hehe, forgot i was already connected
08:16:16 <sbp> [㋡]
08:16:29 * perigrin attempts to put the Io/Futures/CPS/Category Theory stuff on a back burner and hopes something comes of it
08:16:45 <m0d> i found one of the irc logs containing a reference to a project i am involved with, that's all :)
08:16:50 <sbp> “((㋡))”
08:16:55 <sbp> oh, cool. which one?
08:17:01 <m0d> modarchive
08:17:09 <sbp> phenny: tell _bjoern “((㋡))”
08:17:12 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
08:17:17 <thelsdj> .swhack modarchive
08:17:24 <phenny> thelsdj: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-08-25#T21-23-19
08:17:34 <sbp> oh yeah
08:17:47 <m0d> that's a neat script
08:18:57 <sbp> hoffeti fy sgript, eh?
08:19:06 <sbp> hoffet ti, even. oh whatever
08:19:16 <sbp> WHERE IS CLSN
08:19:19 <sbp> hehe
08:19:54 <sbp> so I'm rerunning ./update (for the forecasts) for the first time fully automatically
08:20:02 <sbp> will put it on cron to run at like 6:30 if it works
08:20:20 <sbp> seems to take about :45, so will make for fresh übargoodnesses every morning at 7:15
08:20:34 <thelsdj> what are we forecasting?
08:20:36 <perigrin> piping hot and smelling delicious I assume
08:20:38 <sbp> the weather
08:20:55 <perigrin> if you forcasted forex rates we could all be rich!
08:21:01 <perigrin> .weather kmsp
08:21:04 <phenny> Clear ☼, 28.4℉ (-2℃), 30.06in (1015mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KMSP 1:53, 0753Z
08:21:29 <sbp> thelsdj: the idea is that the MET Office charge about £250/year per city for a detailed five day weather forecast in the UK, which means about £14,000/annum for the top 50 biggest cities
08:21:31 <thelsdj> how are we forecasting? i don't see anything on the whits!
08:21:45 <m0d> .weather ehgr
08:21:48 <phenny> Scattered, 5℃, 1013mb, Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - EHGR 9:25, 0825Z
08:21:49 <sbp> thelsdj: whereas NOAA give it away for free, except you have to process it somewhat (and when I say somewhat, I mean T_T)
08:22:00 <sbp> and yeah, I need to whits about it. I actually *did* whits about it
08:22:12 <thelsdj> just hasn't show up on front page?
08:22:15 * thelsdj checks the daily
08:22:26 <sbp> nope, a while ago. see 3) in http://inamidst.com/whits/2007/10#N291312
08:22:33 <sbp> about two weeks ago
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08:22:48 <sbp> but I only just got back to it yesterday, and still working on it. should be done today
08:22:52 <sbp> so I can write it up today too
08:22:57 <perigrin> thelsdj, you need to have your whits about you at all times!
08:23:10 * danja needs another coffee to recover from scrolling back over Arnia's stuff from last night
08:23:21 <sbp> hehe
08:23:35 <danja> maybe that whit will help
08:23:38 <perigrin> danja, try methamphetamines ... simple caffiene won't suffice I don't think.
08:23:50 <sbp> or some Monty Grog
08:23:55 <Monty> corner 1 hour from esp: Talk:Website setup <http://wiki.espians.com/Talk:Website_setup>
08:24:03 <perigrin> lolpipz juice
08:24:08 <lolpipz> perigrin: R YU MAN OR WOMAN?
08:24:09 <thelsdj> sbp: what happens to the run time if you add more locations?
08:24:46 <danja> perigrin, ta for prescription
08:24:55 <sbp> thelsdj: it increases only by a very little
08:25:02 <danja> grib is a cool word
08:25:07 <sbp> because you basically need to get the weather forecasts for the whole globe
08:25:10 <danja> (get that on the record)
08:25:13 <sbp> and *then* parse what you want out
08:25:17 <thelsdj> sign me up!
08:25:22 <sbp> the parsing what you want out does take a while, but not as much of a while
08:25:33 <sbp> okay, gimme your decimal degrees and a placename
08:25:51 * perigrin wonders if he still has ICBM coordinates
08:26:18 <perigrin> nope ... got lost in the last site update
08:26:31 <sbp> so I have lots of lines like:
08:26:31 <sbp> $DEGRIB $fn -P -pnt 53.466,-2.233 >> Manchester.${fn%.grib}.txt
08:26:31 <sbp> $DEGRIB $fn -P -pnt 51.558,-1.781 >> Swindon.${fn%.grib}.txt
08:26:32 <sbp> $DEGRIB $fn -P -pnt 52.036,-0.77 >> Milton-Keynes.${fn%.grib}.txt
08:26:51 * perigrin finds his foaf missing too
08:26:55 <sbp> heh, heh
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08:27:57 <thelsdj> Chandler, AZ 33.322926,-111.908798
08:28:31 <danja> sbp, how big are the forecast chunks of data - and how often do they update?
08:28:50 <sbp> thx. hmm... I wonder what to do for a filename... AZChandler? Chandler-AZ? US-AZ-Chandler?
08:29:02 <thelsdj> Benicia, CA 38.056934,-122.164967
08:29:04 <sbp> danja: so it gets forecasts for the next 180 hours
08:29:12 <thelsdj> us-az-chandler sound good
08:29:24 <thelsdj> and us-ca-benicia
08:29:29 <sbp> the forecasts are at 3 hourly intervals, so actually I get 60 files
08:29:32 <sbp> and they're 1MB each
08:29:39 * danja still ripping a 1970's prog rock cd
08:29:47 <sbp> these are grib files that I get using some perl concoction that a NOAA engineer put online
08:30:06 <danja> oh right, so it's not outrageously big then
08:30:06 * perigrin decides that is the new name for perl applications
08:30:19 <perigrin> conctions
08:30:22 <thelsdj> grib sounds like something you would use to hax for CAD
08:30:23 <sbp> thelsdj: alrighty, will add when the present crawl is done and rerun the extraction bit
08:30:31 <sbp> hehe, yeah. it's a good haxoring name
08:30:38 <sbp> im haxing teh gribz 'k?
08:30:53 * perigrin has to make a page linking to his concoctions
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08:31:03 <sbp> danja: yeah, not too bad. though then I have to degrib out the data for all my $locations, and then convert that to rdf
08:31:13 <thelsdj> sbp: did you see the spanish enquisition waterboarding loltheist that perigrin and i did?
08:31:41 <sbp> .calc 44494262 bytes in MB
08:31:43 <phenny> 44 494 262 bytes = 42.4330349 megabytes
08:31:44 <thelsdj> i just submitted it so dunno if it will be on the site
08:31:52 <sbp> that's how much data I end up with. hmm, not bad... less than I thought
08:32:01 <sbp> thelsdj: nope?
08:32:05 <thelsdj> http://thelsdj.org/nobodyexpects.jpg
08:32:16 <sbp> ahahaaha
08:32:21 <sbp> awesome
08:32:40 <sbp> hmm, they're going to be nothing but Swhack submissions soon... :-)
08:32:50 <sbp> well, thelsdj submissions to be more precise
08:32:53 <thelsdj> and #eroticbpm
08:33:05 <sbp> hmm?
08:33:05 <thelsdj> (thats where fozzie is from)
08:33:10 <sbp> ahh
08:33:15 <sbp> yeah, who is da fozzie?
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08:33:33 <sbp> I mean, if you had to tell people three facts about fozzie...
08:33:47 <thelsdj> he is a bear
08:35:44 <sbp> oh wait! heh, I'm an idiot
08:36:16 <sbp> was just adding your Places and then I remembered that NOAA actually already give XML weather feeds, for CONUS locations only. that's what I was grumbling about on Whits... I wouldn't have to do this if I was in the CONUS
08:36:24 <sbp> but I don't know what kind of granularity it gives, so checking...
08:37:09 <thelsdj> he likes to take pictures, of stuffed frogs playing accordians
08:37:14 <thelsdj> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/morgantheorgan/SnapshotHunter/PA050007b.jpg
08:37:23 <thelsdj> trying to think of a good 3rd factoid, but i'll go with the obvious. he frequents a porn related chatroom
08:39:46 <sbp> woah, I can connect to NOAA! whoo!
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08:41:18 <sbp> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/xml/index_image001.gif - pretty funny
08:42:14 <m0d> internet clouds :)
08:42:23 <sbp> thelsdj: so yeah, I can only find a SOAP interface to it. which is weird because I thought there was an RESTful interface to it too. hmm
08:42:57 <thelsdj> omg it gose on teh intarnets!
08:43:12 <m0d> yar
08:43:39 <m0d> so i take it you are into weather science sbp?
08:44:11 <thelsdj> sbp is into weather science, like you are into todays breakfast
08:44:50 <m0d> i have not eaten yet, i dont take breakfast so what am i supposed to think now? hehe
08:45:13 <thelsdj> wow, the analogy was even better than i thought it would be
08:45:15 <sbp> I'm into it like your braincock is into serendipitous monkey twazzling
08:46:03 * sbp looks at http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/xml/sample_products/meteogram/plotMeteogramDev.php?lat=38.056934&lon=-122.164967&begin=2004-01-01T00%3A00%3A00&end=2011-11-09T00%3A00%3A00&temp=temp&product=time-series&Submit=Submit
08:46:48 <thelsdj> that looks reasonable for benicia
08:46:52 <m0d> I'm wondering whether you are insulting on purpose or just trying to make the "n00b" cry
08:47:18 <sbp> I was being more surreal than insulting :-)
08:47:25 <sbp> odd you took it as an insult though
08:47:25 <thelsdj> we are trying to explain a difficult concept, in as innapropriate metphor as possible
08:47:47 <danja> bit early for serendipitous monkey twazzling
08:48:04 <sbp> it's NEVER too early for serendipitous monkey twazzling
08:48:35 <m0d> monkeys are sacred in some cultures
08:49:36 <thelsdj> ah, the twazzle should go down smoother then
08:50:17 <sbp> awesome, Urbandictionary defines it:
08:50:18 <sbp> [[[
08:50:19 <sbp> To use a public washroom inside of a high school, more precisely a catholic school. To pleasure yourself with the use of masturbation. The twazzle has only been spotted twice! Many users of the twazzle do not believe it is wrong.
08:50:27 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Twazzle
08:50:39 <m0d> thats weird
08:50:46 <m0d> I was just there looking that up myself
08:50:50 <sbp> hehe
08:51:12 <sbp> .gc site:docs.python.org SOAP
08:51:15 <phenny> site:docs.python.org SOAP: 0
08:51:46 <thelsdj> oh man
08:52:00 <thelsdj> ooh
08:52:04 * sbp looks at http://www.diveintopython.org/soap_web_services/install.html
08:52:05 <thelsdj> that just gave me an idea
08:52:20 <sbp> make a SOAP library which doesn't suck?
08:52:21 <thelsdj> make a RESTful service that just proxies soap
08:52:27 <sbp> ooOh!
08:52:37 <sbp> that's like the ULTIMATE in SOAP libraries which don't suck
08:52:40 <danja> beyond evil
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08:59:55 * sbp adds Chandler and Benicia
09:00:08 <sbp> this doesn't mean that you shouldn't make the RESTful-SOAP service though!
09:00:31 <thelsdj> eheh
09:01:00 <sbp> warning: they mightn't work
09:01:12 <sbp> only about 3/5 of the cities I'm doing at the moment work, for some reason
09:01:20 <sbp> the others give maxint as their output
09:01:26 <sbp> that is, generally 9999.0 and so on
09:09:44 <sbp> thelsdj: hey, it worked!
09:10:11 <sbp> off'd the URIs. not sure if I'm gonna use those locations
09:10:13 <sbp> probably will
09:10:21 <sbp> locations as in URIs, that is
09:11:09 <sbp> also might change the structure of the files and so on
09:11:18 <thelsdj> nice, thanks, goin to bed, talk to you in 6 hours or so
09:11:33 <sbp> c'ya!
09:15:50 * sbp fixes his xsd:dateTime values
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09:20:08 <sbp> funny looking at the Chandler, AZ weather. so different to the UK's weather
09:21:26 <sbp> .thesaurus place
09:21:29 <phenny> place synonyms: abode, accommodation, apartment, area, berth, city, community, compass, corner, country, distance, district, domicile, dwelling, field, habitat, hamlet, hangout, hole*, home, house, joint, latitude,
09:21:32 <phenny> place synonyms: lay, locale, locality, locus, longitude, neighborhood, niche, nook, pad*, part, place, plant, point, position, property, quarter, region, reservation, residence, room, seat, section, site, situation,
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11:19:25 <_bjoern> iz _bjoern
11:19:27 <phenny> _bjoern: 08:48Z <sbp> tell _bjoern “((㋡))”
11:19:46 <_bjoern> ㋡
11:19:58 <sbp> 'lo discmaster _bjoern!
11:20:26 <sbp> thosch: welcome to Swhack
11:20:40 <_bjoern> thosch, asl?
11:20:41 <sbp> thosch: not much Semantic Web haxing here, but some
11:21:09 <_bjoern> sbp(u there)
11:21:11 <sbp> well his FOAF file is http://www.deri.ie/fileadmin/scripts/foaf.php?id=309
11:21:13 <_bjoern> sbp(u did newz yet)
11:21:18 <sbp> _bjoern(y. n)
11:21:23 <sbp> dark came in yestarday
11:21:24 <_bjoern> sbp(k)
11:21:31 <sbp> no news yet, been Weather Forecast haxoring still
11:21:40 <sbp> today I learned about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_quantity
11:21:45 <sbp> which is a superb Wikipedia article
11:21:51 <_bjoern> what's new over in darklandz?
11:22:03 <sbp> he was asking for a password craxor again
11:22:15 <sbp> at least he's moved up in the world: he was asking for a script to craxor it
11:22:30 <sbp> he also asked whether "bjeorn" was around
11:22:39 <_bjoern> ...
11:22:43 <sbp> he likes you
11:23:46 <_bjoern> who doesn't!
11:23:56 <sbp> hmm. Monty sometimes
11:23:58 <Monty> acid == Snooker;
11:24:00 <_bjoern> other than most people, I mean.
11:24:07 <sbp> and bots
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11:50:01 <_bjoern> .wik Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act
11:50:06 <phenny> "The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (also known as AEDPA) is a series of laws in the United States signed into law on April 24, 1996 to 'deter terrorism, provide justice for victims, provide for an effective death penalty, and for other purposes.' [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiterrorism_and_Effective_Death_Penalty_Act_of_1996
11:50:41 <Talliesin> Effective death penalty?
11:50:53 <Talliesin> Did they have a death penalty that wasn't resulting in death or something?
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12:39:16 <Monty> it's Morbus!
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12:57:24 <sbp> alright, doing the News Thang
13:01:32 <sbp> Achewood was good. also: "A new range of Fujitsu Siemens monitors don't draw power during standby. The technology uses capacitors and relays to avoid drawing power when no video signal is present." - http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/11/08/2353240.shtml
13:05:35 <perigrin> lazy ass monitors
13:06:54 <_bjoern> "Why the US Consumer Doesn't Deserve A Decent Robot"
13:10:19 <_bjoern> .title http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd0_1194330997
13:10:23 <phenny> _bjoern: LiveLeak.com - Donald Rumsfeld - Flight 93 was Shot Down
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13:25:34 <_bjoern> I haz a starvation-related problemz.
13:33:02 <sbp> sorry, got interrupted
13:33:08 <sbp> back to The News Thang
13:34:04 <sbp> good title (but that's about it):
13:34:07 <sbp> .title http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/11/08/199242.shtml
13:34:11 <phenny> sbp: Slashdot | Why the US Consumer Doesn't Deserve A Decent Robot
13:34:43 <_bjoern> yeah that's why I quoted just the title
13:35:38 * _bjoern haz purchazed a breadz now
13:36:09 <sbp> [[[
13:36:10 <sbp> Funniest thing I’ve read all week–Mark Lawson says that Radiohead don’t ‘get’ the internet.
13:36:10 <sbp> That’s right. Mark Lawson is telling Radiohead about the internet.
13:36:10 <sbp> Next week, Martin Amis tells Roddy Doyle how he can ‘Irish up’ his novels.
13:36:19 <sbp> ]]] - http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/mark-lawson-is-cory-doctorow/
13:36:22 <sbp> _bjoern: whoopz, sry
13:36:29 <sbp> I got distracted by the Rumsfeld story
13:36:34 <sbp> and didn't even notice the /. quote
13:40:58 <sbp> .title http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=74847&in_page_id=2
13:41:01 <phenny> sbp: Serial killer proves unexpectedly seasonal | Metro.co.uk
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13:42:29 <_bjoern> "Of course, anybody already getting irate at shops putting up their Christmas decorations in early November probably understands the link between Christmas and murderous impulses very well."
13:43:16 <Arnia> danja: I blame you for the idea for chains of disagreement, incidentally. You're getting an acknowledgement on the paper at any rate :p
13:44:25 <sbp> .title http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7261092316031625877
13:44:29 <phenny> sbp: Frat House
13:44:59 <sbp> .title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139221/
13:45:03 <phenny> sbp: Frat House (1998)
13:45:52 <thosch> sbp _bjoern - ah, just read that you welcomed me, thanks. I just entered the room and then turned to other things...
13:46:57 <_bjoern> thosch(u there)
13:47:03 <_bjoern> thosch(asl plz)
13:47:19 <_bjoern> some days I miss dark.
13:47:49 <thosch> 31 m galway, ireland
13:48:12 <thosch> but originally from austria
13:48:30 <perigrin> part of the irostrian cabal
13:48:37 <_bjoern> which part of Austria?
13:48:47 <perigrin> The irish part ... duh
13:48:54 <thosch> lower austria, but had been living in vienna
13:49:01 <thosch> perigrin: :-)
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13:49:37 <thosch> _bjoern: you're from germany?
13:51:03 <Arnia> _bjoern: no, he just likes to pretend
13:52:21 <kpreid> sbp: “((㋡))” makes me think of a diagram of a drum brake
13:52:22 <Arnia> That should have been a comma, not a colon
13:53:14 <_bjoern> Most of the time I pretend to be german, yes.
13:54:15 <sbp> "Gen Musharraf announced his decision to hold elections after coming under pressure from US President George W Bush." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7086272.stm
13:54:45 <sbp> thosch: no problem. welcome again! :-)
13:55:00 <_bjoern> Bush threatened to invase him?
13:56:41 <sbp> ah! back to what I was saying ages ago:
13:56:42 <sbp> [[[
13:56:42 <sbp> "Relative to the average of all the sister copies made over the last 100 years you could say it is losing weight, but by definition it can't," explained Dr Richard Steiner of the National Institute of Standards and technology (NIST) in the US. "So the others are really gaining mass."
13:56:47 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7084099.stm
13:56:50 <sbp> that's hilarious
13:57:06 <sbp> bwahaha
13:57:07 <sbp> [[[
13:57:07 <sbp> However, as they are all measured against each other, knowing which are losing mass or gaining it is an open question.
13:57:07 <sbp> "We just don't know," admitted Dr Steiner.
13:57:11 <sbp> ]]]
13:58:22 <procto> brilliant bbc science reporting once again
13:58:24 <sbp> the silicon idea sounds good
13:59:39 <procto> or maybe the SI unit is defined against the molar weight of water
14:00:32 <_bjoern> There are good obesity jokes in this.
14:01:00 <procto> I was made to belive a kilogram was a liter of water
14:01:29 <clsn> It was originally intended to be a liter of water.
14:01:40 <clsn> But the standard kg turns out to be slightly bigger than that,
14:01:59 <clsn> So the liter of water / kg equivalence is used only as an approximation.
14:02:22 <kpreid> Well, it's just a liter of water at some other pressure, then :-)
14:02:29 <procto> exactly :>
14:02:34 <clsn> Me, I think the "mole" unit ruins the symmetry of SI.
14:02:46 <procto> heh
14:02:46 <clsn> Liquids aren't very compressible. And the liter was supposed to be at STP.
14:03:11 <clsn> The mole is basically an approximate conversion factor between atomic mass units and grams.
14:03:18 <procto> so do there really isn't a decent definition?
14:03:27 <procto> s/do//
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14:04:03 <clsn> The fundamental unit of amount of elementary particles should be the elementary particle! And then we could talk about megaatoms and teramolecules, or at least teraunits.
14:04:07 <procto> they finally decided a meter is based on how far light travels in a weird fraction of a second
14:04:17 <clsn> The definition of the kg at the moment is the mass of the kg standard in France.
14:04:22 <procto> elementary particle being?
14:04:32 <clsn> Yes, the meter is defined in terms of lightspeed.
14:04:47 <procto> electron weight?
14:05:04 <clsn> A mole is defined as the amount of substance containing the same amount of "elementary particles" (whatever those are for the purposes of the experiment) as there are atoms in 12g of carbon-12
14:05:31 <chris2> define it by the weight of a photon :-)
14:05:37 <clsn> So moles are usually in terms of atoms or molecules, sometimes one speaks of a mole of electrons (which has a name I've forgotten)...
14:05:38 <procto> which is supposedly avogadro's number?
14:06:02 <clsn> Right. Avogadro's number. Which, as you can see, is essentially a rough conversion factor between atomic mass units and grams,.
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14:06:34 <Arnia> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/7086894.stm
14:06:38 <phenny> Arnia: BBC NEWS | Wales | North East Wales | Turtle firework cruelty condemned
14:07:32 <clsn> Admittedly, in practice you would always be dealing with things like petamolecules (actually much larger numbers; might be good to define a base unit of some power of ten of particles) and limited significant digits, but so what?
14:07:42 <clsn> You can't get more accuracy by calling them "moles".
14:07:58 <clsn> (why a power of ten? Because ALL THE REST OF SI is based on powers of ten)
14:08:12 * Arnia blames the metric system for the decline of mental arithmetic
14:08:21 <chris2> *g*
14:08:34 <Arnia> We should all be using a number system based on base 11 or base 12 in my opinion anyway
14:08:37 * clsn finds himself remembering an article about the kg a year or two ago in Scientific American.
14:08:41 <_bjoern> ITS A CONSPIRACY TO MAKE AMERICANS DUMBER!
14:08:53 <chris2> why base 11?
14:08:54 <Arnia> That way we get the nice notational convenience of the metric system and a beautiful number of factors
14:08:58 <clsn> Arnia: I once joined the Dozenal Society, to see whatthey were about. They advocate replacing base 10 with base 12.
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14:09:09 <clsn> Precisely because of that: more divisors.
14:09:15 <Arnia> clsn: I have a book which argues for either base 11 or base 12
14:09:19 <clsn> SOMEwhere I have a base-12 slide rule.
14:09:29 <Arnia> Base 11 has nice arithmetical properties apparently
14:09:37 <chris2> weird
14:09:38 <clsn> OK, I can't offhand think of anything good about base 11...
14:09:47 <chris2> i understand 12, but 11 is prime
14:09:50 <Arnia> Trachtenberg
14:09:58 <chris2> trachtenberg!
14:10:03 <clsn> A prime base, NO divisors, hell, an ODD base, which messes up a lot of our thinking...
14:11:11 <chris2> otoh, appending a 0 is easier than trachtenberg anyway :P
14:11:31 * Arnia quite enjoys the Trachtenberg system
14:11:37 <Arnia> But I have that sort of mind...
14:11:42 <chris2> and multiplication by one-one works the same in any base afaics
14:12:58 <chris2> i like the rule x 7
14:14:01 <clsn> ok, afk again now.
14:14:57 <Arnia> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7086340.stm
14:15:01 <phenny> Arnia: BBC NEWS | Business | Oil back above $96 after respite
14:15:10 <Arnia> I need to head down to the Bailey
14:15:23 <Arnia> Well, I say need... I more mean 'want'
14:15:29 <Arnia> but I should go at any rate
14:18:39 <procto> at least gas prices aren't going up as fast
14:18:48 <procto> supply and demand baby!
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14:22:15 <KragenSitaker> what's the x7 rule in Trachtenberg?
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14:23:47 <sbp> back again. I saw a pair of jays!
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14:32:41 <chris2> KragenSitaker: http://www.jimloy.com/arith/trachten.htm
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14:36:31 <KragenSitaker> chris2: thanks!
14:36:38 <chris2> yw
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14:37:38 <sbp> [[[
14:37:39 <sbp> A 21-year-old who arrived at Lorain City Hall last month as a college intern is now overseeing the police department and services such as snow plowing.
14:37:39 <sbp> Heidelberg College political science major Andy Winemiller has been promoted to Service and Safety Director by mayor John Romoser.
14:37:46 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=&article=2905953
14:38:02 <sbp> "For now, Winemiller has the job and its $7,500 a month salary, a big step up from his $7.50 an hour intern's pay. "
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14:41:10 <sbp> .title http://www.wlbz2.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=74280
14:41:38 <phenny> sbp: WLBZ2.com - Man Calls 911 And Demands Beer
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14:45:09 <sbp> this is an absolutely brilliant review:
14:45:10 <sbp> http://books.guardian.co.uk/poetry/features/0,,2208217,00.html
14:45:22 <sbp> of Boris Johnson's new book of poetry for kids
14:46:31 <sbp> .title http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/julians-mythbuster-moment/2007/11/08/1194329387281.html
14:46:35 <phenny> sbp: Schoolboy Julian's lifesaving MythBuster moment - National - smh.com.au
14:46:37 <sbp> awesome
14:46:54 <sbp> "Everyone at school knows about it - kids are buying me ice-blocks and hamburgers."
14:49:21 <sbp> remember the Mr. Wank thing? well:
14:49:21 <sbp> http://www.yuppiepunk.org/2007/07/the-10-most-unfortunately-named-people-on-the-internets.html
15:01:21 <sbp> _bjoern(u there)
15:01:59 <_bjoern> sbp(iz here)
15:02:02 <_bjoern> sbp(kinda)
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15:03:01 <sbp> _bjoern: http://youtube.com/watch?v=arWJ358tZgU
15:03:07 <sbp> "KEITH OLBERMANN SPECIAL COMMENT ON WATERBOARDING NOV 5, 2007"
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15:03:17 <m0d> hello _bjoern
15:03:19 * sbp reviews http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/29/no_master_criminal/
15:03:35 <sbp> http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/blipmag.jpg
15:03:51 <sbp> http://www.galaxygoo.org/blogs/simmon/fisk_mississippi_overview.JPG
15:03:52 <_bjoern> dakr(u theer)
15:04:00 <sbp> hehe: http://weblog.sinteur.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/harddisk.jpg
15:04:16 *** sbp changed the topic to: "http://youtube.com/watch?v=arWJ358tZgU - On Waterboarding"
15:06:34 <sbp> "South Korea's decision to use the image of a 16th Century symbol of motherhood on one of its banknotes has sparked a row about gender stereotyping." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7083811.stm
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15:07:42 <sbp> "You can alter your attraction to the opposite sex simply by looking straight at them and smiling, research suggests." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7082478.stm
15:08:18 <sbp> "A ship's distress signal has been traced to a mountain of scrapped fridges and TVs in Belfast." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7082755.stm
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15:09:13 <sbp> .title http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071107_kaguya_movie_e.html
15:09:15 <phenny> sbp: JAXA | Moving image of the Moon shot by the HDTV camera of the KAGUYA (SELENE)
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15:11:21 <m0d> sbp: I have ship distreass beacon in my ack garden, however, it is not connected to a powersupply :)
15:12:44 <m0d> the fridges incident was careless disposal of such a device
15:13:02 <sbp> aye
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15:13:08 <sbp> strange garden ornament!
15:13:19 <m0d> it is!
15:13:53 <m0d> bg yellow thing, then again, i have larger garden ornaments which kinda make that look insignificant
15:15:10 <_bjoern> sbp(i haz watched)
15:15:16 <_bjoern> sbp(he knows many many words)
15:15:21 <m0d> for some parts of the year I am a radio amateur enthusiast
15:15:24 <_bjoern> sbp(and uses them at a high rate)
15:15:35 <sbp> _bjoern(yah him b all "wuzzmungo" and "pimpsoll" ect)
15:15:48 <_bjoern> sbp(yah)
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15:17:24 <m0d> again, hello _bjoern
15:18:09 <_bjoern> m0d, asl
15:18:24 <_bjoern> m0d(mum sazy no talk strangerz)
15:19:26 <m0d> _bjoern, yeah, right. Enjoying your module collection?
15:19:48 <_bjoern> m0d(u there)
15:20:12 <_bjoern> m0d iz a b0d
15:20:49 <m0d> you what?
15:21:09 <sbp> just ignore him, he's from Barcelona
15:21:37 <sbp> 2007-06-26 04:03:18 <bjoern_> ooh ooooooh http://modarchive.org/index.php?TMATorrentsAbout
15:21:43 <sbp> m0d is from modarchive.org
15:21:56 <m0d> ah yes
15:22:27 <sbp> @nickometer m0d
15:22:42 <sbp> hmm, no supybot
15:23:23 <m0d> for the record, im 28 years old, and i live in the Netherlands.
15:24:14 <m0d> :)
15:25:29 <sbp> ah, that explains it. thanks
15:26:28 <sbp> so, ham radio... hmm
15:26:35 <sbp> ever do any numbers stations listening?
15:27:12 <m0d> i'm not sure i know what you mean by numbers stations
15:28:03 <sbp> heh, probably no then
15:28:06 <sbp> .wik Numbers station
15:28:09 <phenny> "Numbers stations are shortwave radio stations of uncertain origin." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station
15:28:19 <sbp> the full article explains
15:28:19 <m0d> when it is nicer weather i occasionally take a portable shortwave station and make contacts that way
15:28:53 <m0d> ah yes
15:28:56 <m0d> ive heard a few
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15:29:24 <m0d> but more often than not, it's just airport information, hehe
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15:30:28 <m0d> it is something i have not looked into or knew about before, interesting stuff sbp
15:30:43 <_bjoern> NO, U R FROM BARCELONA !
15:31:40 <m0d> WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?
15:32:51 <_bjoern> iz to confuse you
15:33:02 <sbp> WHY ARE U TRYING TO CONFUSE ME BJOERN
15:33:35 <_bjoern> TOO MUCH WORK TO INVASE U, SO CONFUSE U INSTEAD
15:33:41 <sbp> K
15:33:48 <_bjoern> THX
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15:34:31 <_bjoern> .gc "a monkey posing as a"
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15:34:34 <phenny> "a monkey posing as a": 1,180
15:34:37 <sbp> m0d: the answer to pretty much every question and concern you've had about us so far is... this is Swhack. this is what we do. no special behaviour today :-)
15:35:04 <m0d> sbp: I guessed as much after reading the channel manifesto
15:35:07 <sbp> heh, heh
15:36:10 <_bjoern> The channel manifesto is part of our desinformation campaign.
15:37:09 <m0d> Listening to numbers stations in the UK is illegal under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006 <- 2006 O_O that's pretty recent to make something illegal as old as number stations
15:38:36 <_bjoern> is illlegal under != became illegal under
15:39:31 <Tene> .gc "a monkey poisoning a"
15:39:33 <phenny> "a monkey poisoning a": 0
15:39:36 <Tene> .gc "a monkey poisoning"
15:39:39 <phenny> "a monkey poisoning": 0
15:40:11 <_bjoern> MONKEYS DETERMINED TO STRIKE AGAINST U.S.
15:40:19 <sbp> m0d: that may have just replaced an older act
15:40:27 <Talliesin> Haven't read the manifesto in ages. Is our slogan still "where smart people go to be stupid" or did we ditch that.
15:41:18 <m0d> sbp: I am certain of that, yes
15:41:32 <_bjoern> that slogan has been hijacked by the blogosphere.
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15:42:10 <Talliesin> I accuse the blogosphere of false claims so.
15:44:33 * sbp tries to decide if that was an Irish tag-so or not
15:44:42 * sbp wants to hear Talliesin's accent all of a sudden
15:45:42 * sbp doubts that he's the same dude as "Jon Hanna at Palenque Norte 01 Jon Hanna was the inaugural speaker for the Palenque Norte conversations that began at Burning Man 2003. The MP3 files below " - TEH GOOGZALS
15:46:41 <sbp> "Drug-Inspired Metaphysical Concepts"
15:47:14 <m0d> sbp: I will have a tune around sometime to see if I can receive some, aparently it should not be too much of a task to find any
15:50:28 <m0d> http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB/dbOnAirNow.php3
15:50:45 <m0d> -- shows what stations may be on air right now
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15:55:26 <Talliesin> Yes, it's an Irish tag.
15:56:02 <Talliesin> I'll hunt down a podcast I'm on in a bit.
15:56:14 <Talliesin> Nope, I sometimes get correspondence intended for that Jon Hanna though.
15:56:26 <Talliesin> I'm aware of his work.
16:01:15 <_bjoern> .title http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1j79y7i10FY
16:01:18 <phenny> _bjoern: YouTube - Bill Clinton Smacks Down Fox News
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16:06:17 <sbp> cool
16:06:30 <sbp> (to all three of you)
16:06:55 <thelsdj> i am teh bizzack
16:07:10 <_bjoern> tehbizzackdj
16:09:49 <sbp> y0 tehbizzackdj!
16:10:27 <thelsdj> yo
16:13:35 <m0d> wiblle
16:13:43 <_bjoern> .gc arraignment
16:13:45 <phenny> arraignment: 2,090,000
16:14:35 <Tene> .gc fish arrangement
16:14:38 <phenny> fish arrangement: 2,000,000
16:16:21 <thelsdj> http://www.questionablecontent.net/merch.php#lolputer
16:17:22 <Talliesin> sbp: http://podcasts.boards.ie/index.php?id=10
16:18:13 <sbp> thanks, getzoring
16:20:29 <Tene> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=287
16:20:54 <sbp> best pwnage award... hehe
16:22:30 <sbp> ahahaha. "and I think about what hilarious pornos could be made out of them" - on conspiracy theory threads
16:23:38 <sbp> "I lost my copy of The Bermuda Triangle"
16:23:44 <sbp> hahaha. "that's my crotch"
16:23:56 <sbp> and my first audio glimpse of Talliesin was him laughing at that
16:28:36 <sbp> "don't go up to them saying 'I luuuuuve you' and rubbing your thighs"
16:29:53 <sbp> ah! here we go
16:30:53 <_bjoern> why not?
16:31:08 <sbp> _bjoern: they did not say
16:31:15 <_bjoern> insolence.
16:31:19 <sbp> bwahahaha at Talliesin on Dick Cheney
16:31:33 <sbp> man, the ladies really saturate the output
16:31:38 <sbp> I guess it is their show, but
16:32:08 <sbp> the only thing really throwing me is the lack of the interdental on thread
16:32:58 <sbp> they're arguing about how many chickens a particular machine can slaughter
16:33:04 <sbp> whether it's 10,000 per day or not
16:33:33 <thelsdj> the forex market is crazy this week and toda particularly
16:33:53 <KragenSitaker> how so?
16:34:00 <sbp> Talliesin's chicken impression is pretty good
16:34:03 <thelsdj> the dollar has fallen 2% against the yen in the past 12 hours, but gone up against everything else
16:34:33 <thelsdj> (theres this 'yen carry' trick that people use to make interest out of nothing that still seems to be going on that makes the yen go against everything else)
16:36:55 <sbp> Talliesin: thanks
16:37:34 <thelsdj> .calc 1 usd in yen
16:37:36 <phenny> 1 U.S. dollar = 113.546043 Japanese yen
16:37:41 <thelsdj> hehe
16:37:45 <thelsdj> its currently 110.708
16:38:16 <sbp> yen carry?
16:38:41 <jsled> yen curry?
16:39:49 <_bjoern> .calc 1/0.6820
16:39:52 <phenny> 1 / 0.6820 = 1.46627566
16:40:08 <_bjoern> .calc 1 EUR in USD
16:40:08 <phenny> 1 Euro = 1.4646 U.S. dollars
16:40:33 <sbp> thelsdj: I like "math is delicious"
16:40:39 <thelsdj> i have that one
16:40:41 <sbp> I'd like it even more if it spelled maths right
16:40:45 <sbp> you do? awesome
16:41:10 <thelsdj> oh wait no
16:41:26 <thelsdj> i have 'she blinded me with library science', 'hobocore' and 'music + science = sexy'
16:41:53 <KragenSitaker> thelsdj: who are these by?
16:41:58 <sbp> bwahaha at the original cartoon
16:41:58 <sbp> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=593
16:42:01 <Talliesin> sbp, you have now also heard my Fiancee
16:42:08 <Talliesin> Joanna/tSubh Dearg
16:42:10 <thelsdj> http://www.questionablecontent.net/merchpg2.php
16:42:10 <sbp> Talliesin: ooh! which one?
16:42:11 <sbp> ooh!
16:42:14 <sbp> congrats!
16:42:18 <Talliesin> She's hot! :D
16:42:22 <thelsdj> on there i have 'deathmole', the unicorn, and pintsize hoodie
16:42:40 <sbp> .cy merch
16:42:41 <phenny> merch, nf (merched) Example example_sentence=Daeth fy ngwraig a fy merch draw i'r ysbyty neithiwr. daughter, girl, maiden, woman (BBC)
16:42:45 <phenny> merch girl n.f. (merched) daughter n.f. (merched) female n. (merched) (Geiriadur)
16:43:25 <KragenSitaker> Talliesin: How do you pronounce "tSubh Dearg"?
16:43:32 <sbp> listen to the podcast, man
16:44:05 <sbp> (which is to say, I listened to it being pronounced and now I have forgotten already)
16:44:10 <sbp> t-sub darg, IIRC
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16:44:31 <sbp> though I thought -bh was a -v sound
16:45:30 <sbp> sub-jurg
16:45:32 <sbp> there we go
16:46:41 <sbp> phenny: tell d8uv http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/zap.png
16:46:43 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around.
16:48:48 <leobard> ^ns foaf
16:48:59 * leobard just pinging
16:49:23 <sbp> Emeka: help
16:49:23 <Emeka> The following help subtopics are available: query2,profile,4suite,nsBind,varBound,versa,query,varBind,nsBound,triclops,proof,traversal-expression
16:49:23 <Emeka> For help in a specific category, say: .help <categoryName>
16:49:23 <Emeka> For documentation on SPARQL / Versa functions, say: .help <functionName>
16:49:25 <Emeka> For a list of Versa literature available on-line, say: .help versa
16:49:28 <Emeka> For help on Versa traversal expressions, say ".help traversal-expression"
16:49:30 <Emeka> Additional documentation is available from my home page: http://metacognition.info/Emeka/index.html
16:49:32 <Emeka> My DOAP profile is: http://metacognition.info/profile/Emeka.rdf
16:49:34 <Emeka> My current triple limit is 5000
16:49:36 <sbp> .help nsBound
16:49:38 <Emeka> .nsBound <varName>
16:49:40 <Emeka> Returns the Base URI associated with the given predicate
16:49:54 <sbp> .nsBound foaf
16:49:56 <Emeka> $foaf = http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/
16:50:02 <sbp> leobard: there you go
16:50:26 <KragenSitaker> Your pillow.
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16:51:57 <Talliesin> Suv djurg - Means "red jam" but sounds cooler in Irish :)
16:52:02 <thelsdj> "Here's an example of a "yen carry trade": let's say a trader borrows 1,000 yen from a Japanese bank, converts the funds into U.S. dollars and buys a bond for the equivalent amount. Let's assume that the bond pays 4.5% and the Japanese interest rate is set at 0%. The trader stands to make a profit of 4.5% (4.5% - 0%), as long as the exchange rate between the countries does not change."
16:52:13 <sbp> so it was a -v. huh
16:52:35 <Talliesin> Yep, B + Aspiration = V
16:52:49 <sbp> oh, aspirate!
16:52:51 <sbp> not voiced
16:53:04 <sbp> I am horseshit at aspirates
16:53:11 <sbp> just can't hear them or do them or anything
16:53:17 <sbp> as I found out when I tried to learn Hangul
16:53:41 <Talliesin> Nope, I'm talking nonsense
16:53:45 <sbp> ...hehe
16:54:13 <Talliesin> B + Linition = V
16:54:21 <Talliesin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenition#In_the_Celtic_languages
16:54:53 <Talliesin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_(diacritic) - note on Traditional Irish typography
16:55:49 <sbp> hmm. "In Irish orthography, it is shown by writing the 'weak' consonant alongside the (silent) 'strong' one: peann 'pen' → bpeann, ceann 'head' → gceann (sonorization is traditionally called 'eclipsis' in Irish grammar)."
16:55:54 <sbp> heh, yeah, I knew about the dot at least
16:58:29 <Talliesin> I didn't when I was trying to learn the language :(
16:58:36 <Talliesin> NOW it all makes sense.
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17:00:45 <sbp> "However, since few typesetters had the requisite slug, their convention has been to suffix the letter h to the consonant, to signify that it is lenited." - I love that sentence
17:02:45 *** kpreid changed the topic to: "Few typesetters had the requisite slug."
17:06:03 <thelsdj> oh man, some person just spammed like every CPAN author or something
17:06:27 <thelsdj> [[[
17:06:32 <thelsdj> perl help?
17:06:35 <thelsdj> i'm just a kid trying to put together a autofiller conversation bot - hoping to find someone who could help me out.. a simple script that stores info in a tree would be incredibly useful.
17:06:39 <thelsdj> my idea is basically to get a multiplatform/autoconversation filler type 'bot' to save conversation that i've had, and autofill that in the future with exactly the same conversations. ie; at first it would be almost useless, just recording everything i say.... but eventually, after 200 conversations or so, it would be incredibly useful - especially for small direct conversations.when it doesn't know what to say/autofill, it should pop up a
17:06:46 <thelsdj> (eventually, i wanna get an eyetap... and use this idea of mine to help preserve whats left of humanity)
17:06:50 <thelsdj> any thoughts, suggestions... ANYTHING
17:06:52 <thelsdj> - i'd be incredibly appreciative : )
17:06:55 <thelsdj> ]]]
17:07:35 <thelsdj> maybe they only sent it to all the 'a's or something, or maybe just not showing full recipent list
17:09:04 * thelsdj reports it as spam
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17:23:45 <perigrin> I'm pretty sure I haven't gotten it
17:23:53 <perigrin> ooh but I havne't looked at my e-mail yet
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17:35:50 <Jabberwock> What does [[[ ]]] do?
17:36:10 <thelsdj> Jabberwock: read the faq
17:36:27 <xover> CCs the CIA, FBI, and TLA on the enclosed text.
17:36:55 <thelsdj> "The Golden Rule: "Fuck with someone's quote deely. When someone types '[[[', you will remain quiet whilst the quote is pasted, and resume talking only when the complimantary [sic!] ']]]' is entered. Violating this rule is equivalent to getting up on the table during a board meeting and waving your bare arse in the air." - from The 1st Swhack FAQ (c.2002)"
17:36:57 <Jabberwock> Where is the faq?
17:37:02 <thelsdj> http://swhack.com/faq/
17:37:05 <Jabberwock> thanks :)
17:37:07 <xover> .g swhack FAQ
17:37:09 <phenny> xover: http://swhack.com/faq/
17:38:38 <sbp> .gc "clump remover"
17:38:41 <phenny> "clump remover": 68
17:38:55 <sbp> ♲
17:39:44 <Jabberwock> .g!
17:39:51 <Talliesin> .g !
17:39:53 <phenny> !: sorry, no results were found.
17:39:55 <swhask> Maybe you meant: . v
17:40:02 <Jabberwock> .calc 0**0
17:40:05 <phenny> 0 ** 0 = 1
17:40:09 <Jabberwock> !?
17:40:09 <swhask> Maybe you meant: . v
17:40:14 <Jabberwock> .calc 0/0
17:40:16 <phenny> Jabberwock: Sorry, no result.
17:40:21 <Talliesin> .calc 2!
17:40:23 <Jabberwock> Morbus Iff, O fellow man, stop Aaron thwapping me, if you can!
17:40:23 <phenny> 2 ! = 2
17:40:28 <Talliesin> .calc 3!
17:40:30 <phenny> 3 ! = 6
17:40:32 <Jabberwock> I just wanted to say that.
17:40:35 <Talliesin> .calc e!!
17:40:36 <phenny> (e !) ! = 35.8114573
17:40:42 <Talliesin> .calc 3!!
17:40:42 <phenny> (3 !) ! = 720
17:40:51 <Talliesin> .calc 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:40:52 <phenny> Talliesin: Sorry, no result.
17:41:01 <Talliesin> .calc pi!!
17:41:01 <phenny> (pi !) ! = 7 380.55556
17:41:12 * Arnia prods Morbus
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17:42:14 <Jabberwock> crschmidt: I subscribed to the list. I have many fun and games that I've not yet thought of
17:43:58 <thelsdj> Morbus is not to be prodded, he must be left alone to fester and excreet more 60bwc goodness
17:46:08 <sbp> Morbus does not excrete, only ejaculate
17:52:07 <Jabberwock> With no lube
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17:58:16 <crschmidt> Jabberwock: what list?
18:00:36 <sbp> the Swhack Mailing List
18:01:15 <Jabberwock> I want in man! I want to be a part of this clique and contribute my madness.
18:01:37 <crschmidt> hm
18:01:40 <crschmidt> you subscribed?
18:01:43 <Jabberwock> Yeah
18:01:49 <crschmidt> Okay.
18:02:28 <crschmidt> You're approved.
18:02:38 <Jabberwock> Thanks! :D
18:03:44 * cre8radix too
18:03:46 <cre8radix> please
18:03:48 <cre8radix> gimme
18:03:54 <cre8radix> list me
18:03:59 <cre8radix> list me good
18:04:03 <crschmidt> cre8radix: http://lists.swhack.com/
18:04:09 * Tene doesn't think he's quite ready for the mailing list.
18:04:11 <Tene> Still too sane.
18:04:14 <sbp> Monty: list the dude
18:04:15 <Monty> darobin: Middlesborough
18:04:51 * cre8radix subscribed
18:04:54 <cre8radix> :D
18:05:04 Arnia_ (n=jgeldart@client-81-107-193-242.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) has joined #swhack
18:05:05 <Monty> bah, it's Arnia_ again
18:05:15 <cre8radix> monty!
18:05:19 <Monty> quick freelance oesophagus gives birth to Linux Format Tony Blair's Canaries!!!
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18:05:27 <crschmidt> done
18:05:28 <Jabberwock> Arnia_: You have TP danglign from your shoe
18:05:33 <Jabberwock> dangling
18:06:10 <cre8radix> thx
18:07:50 <thelsdj> this cat is weird
18:07:57 <thelsdj> he spends most of the day sitting in a serving platter
18:08:49 <thelsdj> http://flickr.com/photos/thelsdj/481871605/
18:09:13 <thelsdj> I CAN HAZ JOB AZ TURKEY?
18:10:31 <Jabberwock> May I baste your cat?
18:13:21 <thelsdj> http://flickr.com/photos/thelsdj/301632042/
18:14:18 <thelsdj> http://flickr.com/photos/thelsdj/329761804/
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18:30:37 <Jabberwock> cute cat
18:30:57 <Jabberwock> (s)
18:32:22 * xover wishfully thinks of scoped @id in HTML…
18:33:02 Arnia_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:33:22 <xover> Or, hell, I'd settle for getElementsByClassName…
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18:46:39 *** cre8radix is now known as cre8radix|off
18:49:13 <Jabberwock> xover: You know prototype has that, right?
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19:00:09 <deltab> "In the US it's become known as the Jesus Phone — not in reaction to the price, but [...]" — Channel 4 News on the UK iPhone
19:00:38 <_bjoern> but ...?
19:01:02 <deltab> sorry, I was too amused to notcie what followed
19:01:09 <sbp> hehe
19:01:27 <perigrin> _bjoern, but because it saves souls from evil
19:01:29 <Jabberwock> Jesus Phone? Never heard that
19:01:42 <perigrin> read more engadget
19:01:52 <sbp> DON'T MAKE US BRICK YOU
19:02:07 <_bjoern> So it's an IED?
19:02:29 <cre8radix|off> brick
19:02:31 <cre8radix|off> yayaya
19:02:33 <cre8radix|off> riot
19:02:37 <cre8radix|off> RIOT1
19:02:41 <cre8radix|off> RIOT2
19:02:42 <sbp> no, as in, make not work
19:02:42 <deltab> Inordinately Expensive Device
19:02:45 <cre8radix|off> RIOT3
19:02:59 <cre8radix|off> :(
19:03:07 * cre8radix|off wants to riot
19:03:11 * _bjoern heard something like 400 EUR for the phone and 1200 EUR for 2 years of contract on german television earlier.
19:03:13 <sbp> k u can riot a bit
19:03:23 * Tene is reminded of a FIF song.
19:03:32 <cre8radix|off> YAW YAW YAW YA YA
19:03:35 <cre8radix|off> hrhr
19:03:37 <cre8radix|off> BOOM
19:03:40 <cre8radix|off> BANG
19:03:47 <cre8radix|off> ACAB
19:04:10 * cre8radix|off throws gigantic rox at pigs
19:04:12 <perigrin> [13:35] <redspike> phenny++ # phenny making it in the perl world
19:04:24 <sbp> hehe, what?
19:04:31 <deltab> Jabberwock: I've heard people refer to "that basted cat", or something like that
19:04:35 <perigrin> I'm running a phenny on irc.perl.org
19:04:40 <Jabberwock> lol
19:04:42 <Tene> Heh.
19:04:43 <sbp> oh man, the irony
19:04:47 <cre8radix|off> ;P
19:04:54 * cre8radix|off gots to run
19:04:56 <perigrin> she's now in 8 channels?
19:04:58 <cre8radix|off> see y'all
19:05:00 <sbp> c'ya cre8radix|off
19:05:07 <Tene> perigrin: sorry I never got back to you. I forwarded the email to my boss, but never heard anything back.
19:05:08 <sbp> perigrin: on irc.perl.org?
19:05:20 <perigrin> Tene, no worries ... if you could follow up on it though
19:05:23 <perigrin> sbp, yes
19:05:35 <sbp> mad-awesome
19:05:45 <perigrin> darobin said we needed a phenny ... and she became really popular :)
19:05:49 <perigrin> well popular neough
19:05:50 <sbp> wh00!
19:05:55 <Tene> perigrin: /me forwards again.
19:06:07 <perigrin> Tene, ta ...
19:06:28 * perigrin would like to show *some* kind of result at the meeting on Monday
19:06:48 <sbp> use the Chewbacca result otherwise
19:06:52 <Jabberwock> What are you attempting, perigrin?
19:07:17 <perigrin> Jabberwock, I was/am part of the Frozen Perl insitigators
19:07:26 <perigrin> http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/
19:07:59 <sbp> ooh, someone should remake The Birds, but with cats
19:08:07 <sbp> imagine what the closing scene would be like
19:08:08 <sbp> awesome
19:08:13 <perigrin> http://spacedust.atspace.com/soccer_archery.html
19:08:22 <perigrin> I suspect the british are behind it.
19:08:39 <sbp> we wouldn't call it """soccer"""
19:08:40 <Jabberwock> They always are
19:08:52 <sbp> a word so awful I can really only use it with three scare quotes
19:08:57 <sbp> and even then the hate leaks through
19:09:00 <perigrin> sbp, exactly ... "It's football ... we'll get rid of the stupid yanks once and for all!"
19:09:32 <sbp> ooh
19:09:34 <sbp> subtle
19:09:46 <Jabberwock> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/gssq83/Blog/blog_head.jpg
19:09:46 <Jabberwock> lol
19:09:55 <Jabberwock> How did I come across that on an 'akhenaten' search?
19:10:01 <sbp> heh, I've seen that before
19:10:09 <Jabberwock> Clever
19:10:11 <_bjoern> .gc "FOX Security"
19:10:13 <phenny> "FOX Security": 19,600
19:11:14 <sbp> .ety """soccer"""
19:11:25 <sbp> someone help me out here?
19:11:39 <perigrin> .ety scoccer
19:11:42 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "scoccer". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=scoccer
19:11:48 <perigrin> I believe it comes from Association Football
19:12:05 <perigrin> least that's what the boss in Scotland explained to me
19:12:18 <sbp> hmm, that actually makes some sense
19:12:20 <perigrin> .ety soccer
19:12:23 <phenny> "1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang, from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); cf. rugger, but they hardly could have taken the first three letters of Assoc." - http://etymonline.com/?term=soccer
19:12:34 <sbp> hahaha
19:12:48 <sbp> a nice spot of asser
19:13:38 <sbp> so it's a public schoolboy term for football that got misappropriated by the Americans
19:13:43 <sbp> straunge
19:14:42 <sbp> (and thxies)
19:15:05 <perigrin> hmm some bit in my head doesn't flip properly with public schoolboy like it does with the other us/uk translations (.fannyisims?)
19:15:21 <perigrin> public school here is almost the exact opposite
19:15:37 <sbp> it doesn't really make sense to us either
19:15:57 <perigrin> .ety public school
19:15:59 <sbp> must be the epitome of an historicalism
19:16:00 <phenny> "1436, 'of or pertaining to the people,' from O.Fr. public (1311), from L. publicus, altered (by influence of L. pubes 'adult population, adult') from Old L. poplicus 'pertaining to the people,' from populus 'people.' Meaning 'open to all in the community' is from 1542." - http://etymonline.com/?term=public
19:16:28 <sbp> basically it was for the first schools that you could pay to get into
19:16:36 <sbp> hence open to the (exceptionally wealthy) public
19:16:41 <sbp> hence public school
19:16:50 <perigrin> right ... anybody could attened (given enough money)
19:17:06 <sbp> (I love how we're talking about richness in parens)
19:17:20 <sbp> yeah, it's easy! (if you've got the dosh)
19:17:30 <perigrin> (isn't wealth parenthetical?)
19:17:36 <sbp> (NO YUO)
19:17:40 <sbp> (㋡)
19:17:59 <_bjoern> 咒
19:18:12 <sbp> that character still makes me laugh
19:18:13 <perigrin> where as here public schools are state sponsored (and thus tend to be populated with those who cannot afford a tuition based school)
19:18:24 <thelsdj> i know this is probably old news, but have you guys seen this? http://cnx.org/
19:18:29 <perigrin> since they're operated on public money
19:19:04 <sbp> seen it, masturbated over its loving, warming, glowing Web 2.0ness, chewed it up and spat it out into the Web 2.0 spittoon...
19:19:11 <thelsdj> heh
19:19:16 <sbp> (no, hadn't seen it before)
19:20:21 <sbp> ooh, this is actually pretty gAAAHHH SOMEBODY STOP ME
19:22:41 <_bjoern> stop you masturbating?
19:23:21 <sbp> don't worry, I took Queen Victoria's advice
19:23:24 <sbp> (slightly modified)
19:23:44 <perigrin> just lied back and thought of America?
19:23:44 <sbp> "Lie back and think of England^wAmerica" -> problem solved
19:23:49 <sbp> :-)
19:24:03 * perigrin is now on the sbp wavelength
19:24:23 <sbp> welcome to 103.8 FM!
19:24:53 <sbp> hmm, I want a radio station on 103.8 FM now. I really shouldn't joke about these things
19:25:14 <perigrin> I have 97.9FM when ever I drive around in my car
19:25:21 <sbp> ooh. what's that?
19:25:31 <perigrin> My FM Transmitter for my iPod
19:25:36 <perigrin> I don't ahve a tape deck in my car
19:25:36 <sbp> hehe
19:25:51 <sbp> tape deck... I remember tape decks in cars
19:26:09 <perigrin> I had to stop using 99.9FM because there is some Pirate station over near my daughter's school ... or something bleeding through
19:26:22 <perigrin> I can't tell exactly as it's spanish language
19:26:28 <sbp> cool. you could track it down
19:26:39 <sbp> dress up in a smart official-looking outfit
19:26:56 <sbp> and go in saying "DO YOU GUYS KNOW YOU'RE BROADCASTING ON THE CIVIL EMERGENCY FREQUENCY?!"
19:27:37 <perigrin> Nah occasionally I like Reggaton
19:27:46 <sbp> .wik Reggaton
19:27:50 <phenny> "The requested page title was invalid, empty, an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title, or contained unsupported characters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo%C3%ADza,_Puerto_Rico
19:28:02 <perigrin> .wik Reggaton music
19:28:06 <phenny> "The requested page title was invalid, empty, an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title, or contained unsupported characters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo%C3%ADza,_Puerto_Rico
19:28:09 <perigrin> interesting
19:28:12 <jsled> .wik Reggeton
19:28:14 <phenny> "Reggaeton (also spelled Reggaetón, and known as Reguetón and Reggaetón in Spanish) is a form of urban music which became popular with Latin American (or Latino) youth during the early 1990s and spread over the course of 10 years to North American, European, Asian, [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggeton
19:28:26 <perigrin> jsled++ # gracias
19:29:30 <deltab> sbp: Autumnwatch!
19:29:51 <sbp> deltab: no?
19:30:14 <thelsdj> NO, U !
19:30:20 <sbp> no, definitely not
19:30:29 <sbp> they take Fridays off
19:30:44 <thelsdj> i want to take Fridays off
19:31:55 <thelsdj> .gc shitrude
19:31:58 <phenny> shitrude: 100
19:32:01 <thelsdj> OMG!
19:32:03 <thelsdj> 100!!!!
19:32:26 <jsled> next stop, 101!
19:32:36 <Jabberwock> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/DirectorOfFilm/bush_obey.jpg
19:32:39 <perigrin> thelsdj, you need to have the shitrude centennial celebration now
19:32:52 <thelsdj> of course thats still only like 20 non duplicates
19:33:17 <_bjoern> HAPPY U.S. WORLD FREEDOM DAY
19:33:23 <thelsdj> i am teh lozing money on 4X today
19:34:00 <thelsdj> my unrealizzed P&L is -110
19:35:51 <_bjoern> Google finds exactly one mention of it in the news http://washingtontimes.com/article/20071109/COMMENTARY/111090013/1012/COMMENTARY
19:36:31 <sbp> http://img-cdn.mediaplex.com/0/9002/52946/leggings300x250%5B1%5D.jpg
19:37:15 <_bjoern> freedom trousers
19:38:14 <sbp> hehe
19:40:03 <thelsdj> _bjoern: google finds 6 for me
19:40:21 <thelsdj> oh hmm that 6 is not really 6
19:40:32 <thelsdj> i click the 'view more' and the same article comes up on its lonesome
19:40:42 <thelsdj> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/11/20071108-3.html
19:40:43 <_bjoern> it's one news piece and one whitehouse.gov piece for me...
19:40:55 <thelsdj> yea
19:41:18 <sbp> snoopys balls
19:41:19 <thelsdj> maybe there really are 6 but google is hiding them :(
19:41:53 <_bjoern> well we already know Google hates freedom.
19:42:15 <thelsdj> sbp: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snoopys+balls :(
19:43:02 <sbp> thelsdj: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03202002
19:44:21 <thelsdj> yea i now remember that story line
19:45:34 <thelsdj> [[Phillippe by a doorway, wearing a tie in addition to his usual pants and shoes.]] / Phillippe: Well now, what language is that you are speaking? / [[Ultra Peanut bows slightly]] / Ultra Peanut: [in Chinese alphabet] Ni Hao? / [[Phillippe looks confused. then an idea occurs to him]] / Phillippe: Maybe you can write it down! / [[He hands paper and pen to Ultra Peanut. Cheerfully, she writes and hands the paper back to him. Phillippe looks
19:46:12 <thelsdj> they left out her second line
19:46:25 <Tene> thelsdj: truncated
19:46:30 <thelsdj> where?
19:46:43 <Tene> "Phillippe looks ..."
19:46:55 <thelsdj> Phillippe looks perturbed at the paper, while Ultra Peanut looks amused. Her writing reads simply, "snoopys balls".]]
19:47:15 <Tene> thelsdj: get splitlong.pl from http://scripts.irssi.org/
19:47:41 <thelsdj> http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=snoopys+balls&search=Search&comic=636&show=advanced&p=17
19:48:57 <sbp> one of my faves
19:49:55 <sbp> hmm, the plural of nant is nentydd
19:50:20 <thelsdj> [[Phillippe by a doorway, wearing a tie in addition to his usual pants and shoes.]] / Phillippe: Well now, what language is that you are speaking? / [[Ultra Peanut bows slightly]] / Ultra Peanut: [in Chinese alphabet] Ni Hao? / [[Phillippe looks confused. then an idea occurs to him]] / Phillippe: Maybe
19:50:26 <thelsdj> you can write it down! [[He hands paper and pen to Ultra Peanut. Cheerfully, she writes and haands the paper back to him. Phillippe looks perturbed at the paper, while Ultra Peanut looks amused. Her writing reads simply, "snoopys balls".]]
19:50:30 <thelsdj> ok that works
19:51:15 <thelsdj> Tene: any other irssi scripts you recommend?
19:52:20 <Tene> the only other one I use is adv_windowlist
19:52:37 <Tene> I find it nice to have the names of channels with activity available.
19:52:52 <thelsdj> ooh yea that would be nice
19:53:26 <thelsdj> hmm don't see it on there, whats the script name?
19:53:35 * thelsdj googlse
19:53:43 <Tene> adv_windowlist
19:53:49 <Tene> dunno where I got it.
19:53:56 <thelsdj> http://labs.f0rked.com/irssi/mirrors/adv_windowlist.pl
20:01:03 <thelsdj> oh man, now i remember why i love achewood
20:01:08 <thelsdj> they had a stanley tucci joke!
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20:19:47 <deltab> sbp: aw, no fooling you!
20:20:01 <sbp> YEAH MAN WHOO
20:20:09 <sbp> don't forget HIGNFY at 9pm, though
20:20:18 <sbp> unless you only watch the More HIGNFY version
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20:30:41 <sbp> chuckle. ain't shit
20:31:07 <_bjoern> .weather edfm
20:31:10 <phenny> Cloudy, 6℃, 1020mb, Gentle breeze 19km/h (10kt) (↑) - EDFM 21:50, 2050Z
20:40:49 <perigrin> .weather kmsp
20:40:52 <phenny> Overcast ☁, 39.2℉ (4℃), 30.10in (1016mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KMSP 14:53, 2053Z
20:41:21 <perigrin> why does overcast get the cloud but cloudy doesn't?
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20:57:22 <sbp> that was pretty durn good
20:58:40 <crschmidt> .weather KBOS
20:58:44 <phenny> Cloudy, 42.8℉ (6℃), 30.14in (1017mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KBOS 15:54, 2054Z
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21:05:14 <sbp> I'm off. 'night!
21:32:08 <therethinke1> Haha! Best typo ever: "They need to help out 2/47!"
21:32:24 <therethinke1> ...okay maybe not *best*
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21:51:20 <thelsdj> perigrin: aturny genral going up on loltheist on sunday
21:53:22 <perigrin> yay
21:54:20 <thelsdj> .wik KSA
21:54:24 <phenny> "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (Arabic: المملكة العربية السعودية, al-Mamlaka al-ʻArabiyya as-Suʻūdiyya) is the largest country on the Arabian Peninsula." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSA
21:55:26 <thelsdj> got some spam trying ot sell me email address lists for people who live in KSA, UAE, Qata, Bahrain, Kuwait, Egypt and Lebanon
21:55:51 <thelsdj> Qatar
21:59:32 <_bjoern> Hook them up with the U.S. state department. They could send out a peace, freedom, democracy scam, or something like that.
22:06:41 <MoiraA> sounds a good idea :)
22:06:43 <phenny> MoiraA: 08:49Z <sbp> tell MoiraA hello!
22:06:58 <MoiraA> I would bring in the death penalty for spammers
22:07:05 <MoiraA> lol hi sbp!
22:07:19 <MoiraA> cool - I got a message from phenny!
22:07:25 * MoiraA dances
22:07:36 * MoiraA detests spammers
22:10:22 <jsled> .weather KBTV
22:10:25 <phenny> Scattered, 37.4℉ (3℃), 30.15in (1018mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KBTV 16:54, 2154Z
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22:56:41 * Arnia herfts in perigrin's direction
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23:18:21 * thelsdj reverse herfts in the opposite direction
23:20:32 * Arnia nukes thelsdj
23:26:16 <deltab> http://forums.game4fans.com/resort_lounge/18709-sup_pepolz_i_wanna_know_about_data_changing.html
23:27:30 * Arnia shudders and makes himself a sandwich
23:27:32 <Arnia> OF DEATH
23:28:08 <deltab> "chainging" could be a useful word though
23:28:10 <_bjoern> Arnia(u there)
23:28:38 <_bjoern> Arnia(thx for reminding me how hungryz I iz)
23:29:25 <thelsdj> deltab: wtf?
23:29:29 <thelsdj> where did you come across that?
23:30:25 <deltab> ‹bblfish› It makes sense that this would be better than rules because you would not have the problem of backward or forward chainging
23:30:28 <deltab> from #swig
23:30:44 <deltab> about equational reasoning, or some such
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23:31:05 <thelsdj> http://www.hyperdeathbabies.com/index.php?dir=anomaly&comic=5
23:31:16 <deltab> Mr Sandwich of Death there can explain more
23:41:14 <Arnia> :p
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