Swhack! 20 April 2009
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00:31:17 <kpreid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flF-vaudMJ0
00:31:40 <kpreid> (a device which does nothing with style)
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00:46:47 <nsh> is the motor only turning in one direction?
00:46:52 <nsh> that's pretty impressive
00:47:46 <nsh> oh, the motion of each face triggers a cyclical series of valves i guess
00:48:05 <nsh> would be tempted to look up the design if i had the parts
00:53:19 <kpreid> yeah, looks like a compressor and valves to me
00:53:44 <[bjoern]> I have restored faith in my ability to solve theo comp sci problems. yay!
00:55:04 <nsh> ++
00:55:11 <nsh> word for today:
00:55:14 <nsh> .ety susurration
00:55:14 <phenny> "'whisper, murmur,' c.1400, from L. susurrationem (nom. susurratio), from pp. of susurrare, from susurrus 'murmur, whisper,' a reduplication of the PIE imitative base *swer- (cf. Skt. svarati 'sounds, resounds,' Gk. syrinx 'flute,' L. surdus 'dull, mute,' O.C.S. svirati [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=susurration
01:28:18 <BigJibby> .u lowast
01:28:19 <phenny> BigJibby: Sorry, no results for 'lowast'.
01:29:01 <BigJibby> .u ∗
01:29:01 <phenny> U+2217 ASTERISK OPERATOR (∗)
01:29:15 <BigJibby> .u *
01:29:15 <phenny> U+002A ASTERISK (*)
01:30:57 <BigJibby> .c 42 ∗ 42
01:30:58 <phenny> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 3: ordinal not in range(128) (file "/Users/sbp/web/inamidst.com/www/phenny/tools.py", line 20, in new)
01:31:30 <BigJibby> so what's the answer?
01:33:11 <kpreid> First, define the asterisk operator.
01:34:32 <[bjoern]> "[I]t is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution" - Obama on memos saying mass executions of people you don't like are okay. Err, I mean, memos saying torturing people you don't like is okay.
01:34:43 <BigJibby> brown hair, blue eyes, doesn't like to talk much...
01:36:59 <[bjoern]> "The United States has, like all other Contracting Parties to the UN Convention Against Torture, committed itself to investigate instances of torture and to prosecute all cases in which credible evidence of torture is found." - UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, Professor Manfred Nowak
01:41:22 <[bjoern]> this'd be awesome if true http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/18/ksm-183-waterboarding/
01:43:20 <BigJibby> .def waterboarded
01:43:31 <BigJibby> .wik waterboarded
01:43:31 <phenny> "Waterboarding is a form of torture[1]|[2]| that consists of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarded
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02:12:52 <nsh> .c 43 * 42
02:12:53 <phenny> 43 * 42 = 1 806
02:12:57 <nsh> STOP TYPIG IN UNICODE
02:13:01 <nsh> *TYPING
02:13:09 <nsh> freakin weirdos
02:13:17 <[bjoern]> it's just not possible!
02:13:44 <clsn> <insert rant about how ASCII ⊂ UNICODE here>
02:14:13 <nsh> nah
02:14:22 <nsh> ascii is common law
02:14:26 <[bjoern]> that's been going on on unicode-ml recently actually, in a long long thread.
02:14:29 <nsh> unicode is statutory law
02:14:32 <nsh> mostly fucking pointless
02:15:03 <nsh> bolted on and a massive distration to people who could be designing cooler dradles and stuff
02:15:08 <clsn> [bjoern]: yeah I noticed.
02:15:16 <nsh> i don't know why i linked that into rabbinicalism
02:15:24 <nsh> but there you go. tainted with the same brush now
02:15:32 <[bjoern]> primal urges.
02:16:07 <clsn> What a useless argument there.
02:16:38 * nsh smiles
02:17:18 <nsh> i've never claimed to hate on unicode in service to rationality :-)
02:17:41 <clsn> I meant the useless argument on unicode-ml.
02:17:47 <clsn> the long long thread [bjoern] referenced.
02:17:48 <nsh> ah
02:17:54 <nsh> i can imagine
02:17:59 <clsn> Not that your arguments aren't also useless, of course.
02:18:05 <nsh> quite
02:18:17 <nsh> but they're aesthetically useless
02:18:22 <nsh> which is all i require
02:19:49 <nsh> liking the new Egan novel btw
02:19:54 <nsh> Incandescence
02:20:31 <nsh> it's got little insect fellows discovering geometrical theories of gravitation as inertia
02:21:15 <clsn> For sufficiently little fellows, they might not notice gravity for a while. It would not be a significant force in their lives.
02:21:20 <nsh> there's a delightful irony in the parochialism evinced by Egans eschewment of parochialis
02:21:36 <nsh> they live in some weird X type place
02:21:44 <clsn> .gcs eschewing eschewment eschewal
02:21:46 <phenny> eschewing (751,000), eschewal (4,620), eschewment (257)
02:21:55 <clsn> I like the sound of "eschewal"
02:21:57 <nsh> where gravity acts backwards on one axis of the X and forward on another
02:22:07 <nsh> yeah, on reflection i'd go for that to
02:22:09 <clsn> eek
02:22:33 <clsn> .g eschewal
02:22:33 <phenny> clsn: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eschewal
02:22:43 <clsn> .g eschewment
02:22:44 <phenny> clsn: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Eschewment
02:22:59 <clsn> I guess both can make some claim to be “real” words.
02:25:32 <nsh> http://imagebin.org/46138
02:25:48 <nsh> ^ diagram from the book
02:26:19 <[bjoern]> attacked by T chromosomes.
02:26:53 <clsn> Dang. I guess you can map that to a 3D surface of some sort at least to get some insight.
02:27:14 <nsh> yeah, though it's probably just a cross-section
02:27:35 * [bjoern] 'd make a torus with the pix as texture, but has no 3dware installed.
02:27:38 <clsn> Even so, it can help you vizzilize.
02:27:42 <nsh> true
02:27:56 <clsn> .gc vizzilize
02:27:57 <phenny> vizzilize: 0
02:28:19 <deltab> heh, table fail: http://imagebin.org/46135
02:28:57 <[bjoern]> like using space indentation to make one in ms word with proportional font
02:29:00 <clsn> yeeg.
02:29:08 <nsh> another showing equipotential lines http://imagebin.org/46139
02:29:12 <[bjoern]> this didn't take long http://imagebin.org/46121
02:29:50 <[bjoern]> hehe http://imagebin.org/46116
02:30:00 <nsh> if that was done from brainspace i'm still impressed though bjoern
02:30:05 <nsh> (the wiremesh)
02:30:54 <nsh> clsn, as you can see from the second diagram, there is less of a gradient in the repulsive domain of gravity than the attractive
02:31:04 <nsh> by a factor of 2.25
02:31:12 <clsn> OK...
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02:31:55 <nsh> now at the point where the old diddery insect is showing the young worker insect he recruited how to derive the formula for fictitious weight from rotational inertia
02:32:09 <nsh> pretty fun to read from the perspective of socratic dialogue
02:33:10 <lisppaste2> nsh pasted "except from gravity exposition in insectspace" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/78869
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02:42:17 <nsh> does make you wonder how much quicker the theory of gravity would have developed if we had a realm like this
02:42:31 <nsh> with a central area of zero-gravity
02:43:57 <clsn> If gravity varied more obviously in human experience.
02:44:12 <nsh> right
02:44:45 <nsh> it took ballistics to get people to actually work out the shape of trajectories
02:44:54 <nsh> and that was only so they could kill stuff more effectively
02:45:09 <nsh> though one can be less cynical and assume sports would have precipitated the same endeavour
02:45:23 <clsn> It has been noted that it's kind of a shame that so much physics was invented around the mediterranean, since it has almost no tides to speak of, so they didn't work out much re tides.
02:45:28 <nsh> who knows, it may even have done somewhere at some point
02:45:33 <nsh> hmm
02:45:35 <nsh> interesting
02:46:03 <clsn> There's just those little straits of Gibraltar for the lumps of tide to squeeze in and out of.
02:48:15 * nsh nods
02:48:49 <nsh> britain has some pretty impressive tidal ranges though. but, out of sight out of mind
02:50:00 <nsh> it makes me wonder though: if we could couple with survival-reflex perception various trivial variances in phenomena that are usually incidental to comfort
02:50:15 <nsh> what insights might be gained that could be ultimately transferable
02:51:25 <nsh> if cosmic ray spectra made sounds like a violin being played more or less amateurly for instance
02:51:39 <nsh> depending on orientation and location
02:52:12 <nsh> definitely need to get me a seastead full of clones and a blind eye from the UN
02:52:34 <clsn> I used to imagine what it would be like to see radio waves. Mostly wrt seeing how going through tunnels interfered with listening to the radio.
02:53:52 <nsh> mmm, what's that instrument called which is controlled by gesticulations affecting radio signal
02:53:58 <nsh> thermi-something
02:54:19 <nsh> no, not that
02:54:30 <nsh> theremin
02:54:32 <deltab> Theremin
02:54:39 <nsh> you could probably modulate that to vision
02:54:46 <nsh> not modulate, transduce
02:55:11 <clsn> I have a theremin.
02:55:15 <nsh> cool
02:55:19 <clsn> Can't play it for crap though.
02:55:33 <clsn> Someday I mean to buy a *decent* one.
02:56:52 <nsh> you could probably hook one up to software
02:57:02 <nsh> and train yourself automatically
02:57:16 <deltab> a midi theremin?
02:57:18 <nsh> (such that you'd have a gradually decreasing tolerance and notes would "snap to pitch")
02:57:27 <deltab> pitch bend messages
02:57:36 <nsh> mm
02:57:37 <clsn> ooooogg, a midi theremin... That would be.... weird.
02:57:49 <clsn> Would so go against what theremins are about though. :)
02:57:54 <deltab> yeah
02:58:04 <nsh> .wik Ethervox
02:58:06 <phenny> "The theremin is an early electronic musical instrument controlled without contact from the player." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin
02:58:22 <nsh> anyway, that was a midi-theremin, apparantly
02:58:36 * nsh partially agrees
02:59:02 <nsh> inasmuch as fretting goes against what violins are about
02:59:12 <nsh> which is why they give guitars a different name
02:59:22 <nsh> oh and some historical reasons i forget the details of
02:59:23 <nsh> :-)
03:00:42 <nsh> this thereminist is analogically hawt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carolina_Eyck_Portrait.jpg
03:00:54 <nsh> heh, i made a pun
03:01:34 <clsn> .wik Clara Rockmore
03:01:35 <phenny> "Clara Rockmore (born Clara Reisenberg, March 9, 1911 – May 10, 1998[1]|) is generally considered to be the most accomplished performer ever of the theremin electronic musical instrument." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Rockmore
03:01:46 <clsn> I have a CD of her on the theremin.
03:02:16 <nsh> nice
03:03:27 <clsn> Rockmore, not the babe in the picture that is,
03:04:05 <nsh> grok't
03:07:04 <[bjoern]> .gc "fuck a black hole"
03:07:05 <phenny> "fuck a black hole": 12
03:09:30 <clsn> That sounds picturesque enough that it deserves more googlespace.
03:11:37 <nsh> .gs picturesque like a *
03:11:38 <phenny> picturesque like a *: glossy advent (3), fairy tale (2)
03:11:46 <nsh> heh
03:11:57 <nsh> .wik Society of the spectacle
03:11:59 <phenny> "The Society of the Spectacle (La Société du spectacle) is a work of philosophy and critical theory by Situationist and Marxist theorist, Guy Debord." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Spectacle
03:12:10 <nsh> Debord would have something to say about that gs result.
03:12:34 <nsh> Eco too, I'm sure
03:14:03 <[bjoern]> stop googling, get a life?
03:15:52 * nsh smiles
03:17:52 <[bjoern]> If God loves all his creatures, why did he make some of the so delicious?
03:19:00 <clsn> If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
03:19:06 <nsh> because he loved others more
03:19:41 <[bjoern]> you sure he made them from meat?
03:22:57 <clsn> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/14/funny-pictures-it-not-for-sits/
03:26:56 <[bjoern]> http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/224789/april-16-2009/the-colbert-coalition-s-anti-gay-marriage-ad
03:28:03 <clsn> iirc, comedy central video doesn't like to work on my machine. lessee if this does.
03:28:31 <[bjoern]> hey it works from germany in opera, that's pretty unusual as these things go.
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03:30:21 <clsn> Yeah, but I have a slightly ancient box that needed replacing years ago.
03:30:35 <clsn> I is a perfeshunal. I should have good hardware. Shyeah right.
03:31:08 <[bjoern]> my cpu has but a single core.
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03:46:42 <clsn> What's a core? Is that like the metal donuts my computer uses to store its ones and zeros?
03:47:39 <[bjoern]> more like one of the ice fairies that make your fridge cold
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08:00:07 <Arnia> .title http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2009/04/is-this-the-most-ridiculous-political-video-ever.html
08:00:08 <phenny> Arnia: Comment Central - Times Online - WBLG: Is this the most ridiculous political video ever?
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08:32:43 <sbp> yo
08:32:43 <phenny> sbp: 19 Apr 22:17Z <nsh> tell sbp ++
08:32:44 <phenny> sbp: 19 Apr 23:47Z <nslater> tell sbp http://hebig.org/blogs/archives/main/000962.php
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08:46:15 <sbp> ooh, visible eggs on mega
08:47:46 <_ulises> yo sbp
08:49:34 <sbp> yo _ulises
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09:29:33 <cre8radix> pompom
09:30:26 <_ulises> pom-pi-dom
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09:32:33 <cre8radix> _ulises: :D
09:35:28 <cre8radix> http://www.pledgebank.com/GEMAHACKEN
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10:24:27 <[bjoern]> cre8radix: http://www.golem.de/0904/66556.html
10:26:09 <cre8radix> lol
10:26:12 <cre8radix> O_O
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11:28:45 <[bjoern]> Yo, back from the city.
11:28:51 <[bjoern]> Oh, I have to go to the city soon.
11:28:55 <cre8radix> :D
11:29:44 <[bjoern]> gleich wäsche abholen und dann nachher nochmal los in meine Haskell / Java Übung.
11:29:50 <[bjoern]> Da hab ich total lust drauf
11:30:07 <[bjoern]> mit der halben stunde schlaf vorhin bin ich immerhin topfit jetzt!
11:33:02 <[bjoern]> fat people cause global warming http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/dyp172
11:33:44 <[bjoern]> this is not how i pictured the end of the world http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/30/30164/30164_1.gif
11:38:24 <sbp> really?
11:38:45 <[bjoern]> which one?
11:38:58 <sbp> THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, BUB: 12:33 <[bjoern]> this is not how i pictured the end of the world http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/30/30164/30164_1.gif
11:39:09 <sbp> also, ei were visible earlier
11:39:17 <[bjoern]> No, I lied for effect.
11:39:34 <sbp> let's see if imagebin works
11:40:01 <sbp> wtf: "Sorry, you did not provide any data for upload. Please try again."
11:40:23 <[bjoern]> Perhaps you did not provide any data for upload and should try again.
11:41:05 * sbp tries imagebin.org instead
11:41:14 <sbp> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=46169
11:43:02 <[bjoern]> pervert
11:43:19 <[bjoern]> back in, well let's try 27?
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12:12:20 <[bjoern]> mastery
12:13:33 <[bjoern]> phenny: tell cre8radix Worst CDU Plakat ever: "Dumpinglöhne würden CDU wählen!"
12:13:34 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when cre8radix is around.
12:21:07 <[bjoern]> Monty... still not here!
12:21:35 <[bjoern]> Using traditional remindation devicaliciousness now.
12:25:26 <[bjoern]> Okay I think I will be installing Linux now
12:25:51 <[bjoern]> booting knoppix in the vm and installing shnizzle each time succs
12:37:00 <[bjoern]> first attempt results in "[incomprehensible] end trace"
12:37:43 <[bjoern]> second attempt in "hmm, did it hang itself up or is it doing something and not telling me"
12:37:56 <[bjoern]> ooh cd icon blinking
12:38:03 <[bjoern]> so the latter
12:40:53 <[bjoern]> well whatever it is doing I can tell that knoppix boots a lot faster
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12:46:52 <[bjoern]> okay lets reset and quit the quiet nonsense
12:48:06 <[bjoern]> funny, added all my kernel options, then realized I had the wrong option (boot rather than install), move cursor, all gone
12:48:23 <[bjoern]> wouldn't mind so much if selecting english does not trigger us keybdrv
12:48:38 <[bjoern]> well lets fix that too
12:49:44 <[bjoern]> right-o
12:50:10 <[bjoern]> how useful it gives bootlog with times with six fractional digits for seconds
12:50:37 <[bjoern]> squashfs is a very reassuring name
12:51:40 <[bjoern]> "Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods"
12:51:41 <[bjoern]> k
12:52:58 <[bjoern]> needless to say it does not go beyond the squashfs thing
12:53:36 <[bjoern]> ooh now it prepares restricted drivers!
12:54:27 <[bjoern]> trackpoint.c: failed to get extended button data
13:00:24 <[bjoern]> I see Gui!
13:00:32 <[bjoern]> I see cursor!
13:00:40 <[bjoern]> now see "wait" cursor...
13:01:24 <[bjoern]> "Welcome - Ready to install?"
13:01:31 <sbp> hehe, you're doing a thing
13:02:24 <sbp> squashfs might just mean that it's based on yummy fruit based beverages
13:02:56 <[bjoern]> So what keyboard do I have. Cool options available like
13:03:00 <[bjoern]> "Germany - Neostyle"
13:03:05 <[bjoern]> "Germany - Sun dead keys"
13:03:27 <[bjoern]> "Germany - Romanian keyboard with German lett" (ers? it's cut off)
13:03:30 <sbp> "Germany - The man who shot Liberty Valance"
13:03:54 <[bjoern]> Why would anyone eliminate the *dead* keys?
13:04:11 <sbp> well it doesn't say the dead keys are eliminated
13:04:19 <sbp> it says they're Sun, which seems to be some kind of a codeword
13:04:37 <[bjoern]> nonono, this is for "Germany - Eliminate dead keys"
13:04:40 <sbp> perhaps it intends to say that the Sun-dead-keys are included
13:04:42 <sbp> ah
13:04:52 <sbp> yeah, dunno, that's weird
13:04:57 <sbp> oh!
13:05:07 <sbp> perhaps they're double-killing them to make sure they don't come back as zombies
13:05:52 <[bjoern]> sounds like that might just produce them in the first place.
13:06:30 <sbp> why, can zombies mate?
13:07:17 <[bjoern]> consider double minus in math
13:07:51 <sbp> ooh
13:08:04 <sbp> but wait, that could be decrement
13:08:06 <sbp> --key
13:08:47 <[bjoern]> How about: Minus mal Minus gibt Plus?
13:09:15 <sbp> ooh, strange operators
13:09:22 <sbp> malminus. dismultiply
13:09:23 <[bjoern]> It's Eselsbrücken like that that guide me though mathverse
13:09:40 <sbp> .leo Eselsbrück
13:09:42 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Eselsbr%C3%BCck
13:09:47 <[bjoern]> .leo Eselsbrücke
13:09:48 <phenny> die Eselsbrücke = crib, mnemonic, memory hook, mnemonic trick
13:09:49 <phenny> die Eselsbrücke (fig.) = mnemonic rhyme
13:09:50 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Eselsbr%C3%BCcke
13:09:51 <sbp> going to take that as mnem... right
13:10:02 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "donkey bridge"?
13:10:03 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Esel-Brücke" (en to de, translate.google.com)
13:10:10 <sbp> what would mnemonic look like if you ... donkey bridge?
13:10:16 <sbp> if you ported it into German?
13:10:35 <sbp> donkey because it's a humble animal?
13:10:40 <[bjoern]> Mnemonik
13:11:04 <[bjoern]> Esel sind sehr wasserscheu und weigern sich beharrlich, auch kleinste Wasserläufe zu durchwaten, auch wenn sie diese physisch leicht bewältigen könnten („sturer Esel\ldblquote ), denn ein Esel kann durch die spiegelnde Wasseroberfläche nicht erkennen, wie tief der Bach ist. Daher baute man ihnen in Furten kleine Brücken, die sogenannten „Eselsbrücken\ldblquote .
13:11:04 <[bjoern]> Analog dazu ist eine sprichwörtliche Eselsbrücke ein Umweg oder besonderer Aufwand, der dennoch schneller - oder überhaupt erst - zum Ziel führt.
13:11:04 <[bjoern]> Außerdem geht ein Esel nicht über jede Brücke, denn er setzt seinen Huf nur auf jenen Untergrund, der ihm zu 100 % geheuer erscheint. Er überquert nur eine Brücke, die ihm Sicherheit bietet. Somit steht die „Eselsbrücke\ldblquote auch für die Sicherheit.
13:11:09 <[bjoern]> - wp
13:12:54 <cre8radix> .
13:12:55 <phenny> cre8radix: 12:13Z <[bjoern]> tell cre8radix Worst CDU Plakat ever: "Dumpinglöhne würden CDU wählen!"
13:13:07 <cre8radix> O_o
13:13:12 <cre8radix> yeah... RIGHT!
13:13:18 <cre8radix> heh
13:13:23 <cre8radix> in theit dreams
13:13:31 <[bjoern]> gotta make a pix of it
13:13:32 <cre8radix> s/theit/their
13:13:35 <cre8radix> yeah
13:13:38 <cre8radix> do that
13:13:38 <[bjoern]> no batteries though
13:18:02 <[bjoern]> "Nach si, nisi, ne, num, quo, ubi, quando, cum fällt der kleine Ali um."
13:18:39 <cre8radix> Barbarus hic ego sum, quia non intellegor ulli
13:18:52 <[bjoern]> I remember well Qpetel Libebcnof
13:19:50 <[bjoern]> (combines math and chemistry, i suppose something with quadratic equations, and Lithium, Beryllium, Bohr, ... dont mind my spalling)
13:21:12 <[bjoern]> "Mit Vodka ertränkt manch Jüngling seine unerwiderten Neigungen." (planets solar system)
13:21:47 <[bjoern]> I am concerned Ubuntu might be trying to fully format the hard drive
13:22:01 <[bjoern]> which will necessarily fail as I have much less space available than the size of the virtual drive.
13:22:48 <[bjoern]> ah I knew Bohr without H
13:23:00 <[bjoern]> Guess physics came in the way
13:26:07 <[bjoern]> I much doubt this is what I saw http://rotstehtunsgut.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/3018_1155786892997_1177462408_30436226_1995313_n.jpg
13:26:30 <[bjoern]> But I was also busy not getting dying, so who knows
13:26:43 <[bjoern]> sput teh wong word
13:27:07 <[bjoern]> Ubuntu has been "Scanning files" for quite a while now
13:30:25 <[bjoern]> it jumped from 15% to 17%!!!! after only like 8 minutes
13:32:34 <sbp> there's a mosquito net over the door of 10 Downing Street
13:32:37 <sbp> not entirely sure why
13:32:50 <sbp> and a girl's just come out
13:32:55 <[bjoern]> So Blair can't sneak in again.
13:32:57 <sbp> and now she's going back in
13:33:01 <sbp> maybe
13:33:11 <[bjoern]> She was checking if Blair is trying to sneak in.
13:33:22 <sbp> I wouldn't send her for that job
13:33:30 <sbp> she'd be more likely to entice him in
13:34:07 <[bjoern]> If you know for certain that he's not, and want to check on her back?
13:34:59 <sbp> oh yeah, that would work
13:36:18 <sbp> 11 doesn't have any mosquito net
13:37:53 <cre8radix> but check the twelvezies
13:37:58 <cre8radix> :D
13:49:41 <sbp> oh, Andy Murray, David Beckham, and Denise Lewis are supporting an anti-malaria charity
13:49:51 <sbp> and the PM is hobnobbing with them
13:49:59 <sbp> now they're all going to number 11
13:52:42 <[bjoern]> .wik Fixed-Dose Artesunate Combination Therapy
13:52:43 <phenny> "Antimalarial drugs are designed to prevent or cure malaria." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimalarials
13:53:59 <[bjoern]> strange
13:55:33 <[bjoern]> assignment is to list three different spanning trees of a graph. If I give three hamiltonian paths, each starting from a different node, would that be a good solution?
13:55:47 <[bjoern]> they might even take slightly different routes
13:56:07 <[bjoern]> Hey I could use one, and reverse it, and start in the middle
13:56:45 <[bjoern]> They certainly are different, even if partly isomorphic...
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14:13:12 <[bjoern]> Ubuntu at 52% while I haskelled
14:13:17 <[bjoern]> tester1 :: Eq a => (b -> a) -> (b -> a) -> b -> Bool
14:13:18 <[bjoern]> tester1 f1 f2 x = (f1 x) == (f2 x)
14:13:18 <[bjoern]> tester2 :: Eq b => (a->b)->(a->b)->[a]->[Bool]
14:13:18 <[bjoern]> tester2 f1 f2 x = [ tester1 f1 f2 y | y <- x ]
14:26:48 <[bjoern]> 60%
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14:46:47 <realist> sbp: are there webcams on Downing Street or something?
14:47:46 <[bjoern]> p hacked a spy sattellite yesterday to get better stork pix, now using it for other purposes.
14:50:37 * realist grins.
14:51:12 *** [bjoern] changed the topic to: "boring people have feelings too"
14:54:00 <sbp> media cameras
14:55:44 <[bjoern]> bb2h
15:05:31 <sbp> linux will be done by then?
15:14:49 <_ulises> linux will never be done
15:35:41 <procto> linux is done it's called osx
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16:45:55 <[bjoern]> b
16:46:14 <[bjoern]> 63%
16:46:20 <[bjoern]> though in fairness I halted it earlier.
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16:58:41 <[bjoern]> Monty!
16:58:46 <Monty> sounds good fix. whew :) It would that seems even work on that are so they're updated lazily, currently
16:58:59 <[bjoern]> That explains everything Monty.
16:58:59 <Monty> aha
16:59:28 <[bjoern]> .c (2666MHz times 4277ms) over 1GB
16:59:29 <phenny> ((2666 MHz) times 4277 ms) over (1 GB) = 10.6193889 Bytes-1
16:59:43 <[bjoern]> .c (2666MHz times 2514ms) over 1GB
16:59:44 <phenny> ((2666 MHz) times 2514 ms) over (1 GB) = 6.24202564 Bytes-1
16:59:50 <[bjoern]> .c (2666MHz times 1507ms) over 1GB
16:59:51 <phenny> ((2666 MHz) times 1507 ms) over (1 GB) = 3.74173932 Bytes-1
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17:12:55 <[bjoern]> "Creating user..."
17:13:29 <[bjoern]> "Evolving critter into user..."
17:14:50 <[bjoern]> "Creating secondary user from /proc/user1/rib..."
17:14:57 <sbp> +
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17:16:54 <[bjoern]> "Scanning the mirror..."
17:19:26 <[bjoern]> .gc "Fatal Error in Wish"
17:19:27 <phenny> "Fatal Error in Wish": 56
17:20:20 <[bjoern]> Can't be long now before it fails to boot
17:20:52 <[bjoern]> Or maybe it'll enter "Detecting hardware, please wait..." mode...
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17:58:29 <sbp> [bjoern]: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01387/basketball-sky-squ_1387433i.jpg
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18:38:01 <clsn> .ety juggernaut
18:38:02 <phenny> "1638, 'huge wagon bearing an image of the god Krishna,' especially that at the town of Puri, drawn annually in procession in which (apocryphally) devotees allowed themselves to be crushed under its wheels in sacrifice." - http://etymonline.com/?term=juggernaut
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18:55:28 <clsn> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8008767.stm
18:55:29 <phenny> clsn: BBC NEWS | UK | Scientist Hawking ill in hospital
18:55:33 <clsn> Yow.
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19:07:26 <sbp> .u zero width
19:07:27 <phenny> U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE ()
19:07:27 <Monty> "you"
19:07:36 <sbp> .bytes ()
19:07:37 <phenny> sbp: '(\xe2\x80\x8b)'
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19:12:56 <deltab> "They said it was about risk management. In fact it was a massive pyramid scheme."
19:13:09 <deltab> Will Hutton on Channel 4 explaining what happened to the banks
19:13:36 <sbp> chox
19:15:09 <deltab> some nominative determinism: Frank Raiter was in charge of assessing risks.
19:17:41 <deltab> (he quit when he was told to give an estimate without anything to base it on)
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19:18:12 <Monty> howdy, Tene
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20:52:01 <[bjoern]> I like the ubuntu login screen, considering i named the machine deadend
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21:12:22 <Monty> But what does nsh have to do with the price of fish?
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21:38:48 <nsh> Monty, I DICTATE the price of fish, motherfucker
21:38:48 <Monty> screw you
21:38:56 <nsh> Monty, don't expect to get any fish then.
21:38:58 <Monty> fornicates with Kinopio.
21:39:21 <[bjoern]> I think he is saying he didn't want your fish anyway.
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22:49:29 <Monty> hi libby
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