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00:39:32 <Monty> Hey tav, nslater asked me to tell you: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/DVCSAnalysis [Sat Apr 25 14:48:36 BST 2009]
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01:22:33 <Arnia_> 'Nonetheless, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky used to make a living flying around the country installing governors on computers to prevent them from erupting into Terminator type malign awareness.' — comment on a mailing list
01:24:46 <clsn> Cool job.
01:25:13 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp so here go the mozilla figures http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/utf-8/decoder/dfa/#performance
01:25:13 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
01:35:21 <[bjoern]> (the 24775ms figure above was the "large" buffer, but with all "x" instead of wikipedia content, so ascii-only; mine eats through that at 12x Mozilla's rate...)
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06:17:39 <cre8radix> ahoi
06:17:57 <cre8radix> RIOT DAY!
06:17:58 <cre8radix> :D
06:18:04 <cre8radix> lalala
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07:18:05 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's ephemerian!
07:23:44 <_ulises> effing Monty
07:23:49 <Monty> unsatisfying amplified ingenuity respects lonely unreleased excrement, apparently.
07:24:05 <_ulises> hehehehe
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07:47:08 <cre8radix> kick off last night
07:47:09 <cre8radix> http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00803/Walpurgis_DW_Politi_803025g.jpg
07:48:07 <_ulises> wow
07:48:15 <_ulises> where was this and waipls?
07:48:38 <_ulises> (hi btw)
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09:10:43 <sbp> yo
09:10:43 <phenny> sbp: 01:25Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp so here go the mozilla figures http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/utf-8/decoder/dfa/#performance
09:11:03 <sbp> phenny: tell clsn the two different glyphs for “y” in that book are insanely clever!
09:11:04 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when clsn is around.
09:11:08 <_ulises> yo sbp
09:11:13 <sbp> yo _ulises
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09:35:32 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article6201628.ece — “Jack the Ripper ‘was invented by journalists’”
09:35:32 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
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10:58:56 <Morbus> .
10:58:56 <phenny> Morbus: 09:35Z <sbp> tell Morbus http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article6201628.ece — “Jack the Ripper ‘was invented by journalists’”
10:59:08 <Morbus> YEAH, JUST LIKE SHAKESPEARE
11:00:34 <Morbus> interesting story.
11:10:43 <cre8radix> _ulises: heya
11:10:48 <cre8radix> this was in berlin
11:10:57 <cre8radix> and BECAUSE!
11:10:58 <cre8radix> :D
11:11:06 <cre8radix> 'tis may 1st
11:11:13 <cre8radix> traditional riot day
11:11:26 <cre8radix> and last night: walpurgis nacht
11:11:35 <cre8radix> .wik walpurgis night
11:11:37 <phenny> "Walpurgis Night (Walpurgisnacht) is a traditional religious holiday of pre-Christian origin, celebrated today by Christian and non-Christian communities as well, on April 30 or May 1 in large parts of Central and Northern Europe." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_night
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11:54:53 <sbp> “A University of Delaware student rides around the campus wearing a gas mask to make a statement about how he feels the swine flu is being overblown by the media”: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01394/flu-cyclist_1394926i.jpg
11:55:37 <sbp> cre8radix:
11:55:38 <sbp> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01394/berlin-punks_1394923i.jpg
11:55:47 <sbp> Walpurgisnacht riot
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12:08:49 <cre8radix> sbp: :)
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12:09:17 <cre8radix> on the jacket it says: what are you staring like that for?
12:09:38 <cre8radix> there will be more rioting tonight
12:10:41 <sbp> BBC News: Simon had to go bankrupt, and he almost didn't have enough money to pay for *that*
12:10:59 <sbp> apparently he was five quid short of the bankruptcy fee
12:11:16 <sbp> so another lady in the (bankruptcy?) queue gave it to him
12:18:32 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8028367.stm
12:18:34 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown quit call is top petition
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12:45:29 <nsh> Simon who?
12:45:29 <Monty> lib/.foo/foo_design/bar.view
12:46:01 <sbp> someone from Cornwall, I think
12:46:06 <sbp> don't remember his surname
12:58:28 <sbp> --
12:58:29 <sbp> A petition calling for Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson to be the prime minister was signed by 50,000 people prompting a video response from Number 10, in which it said they had "thought long and hard" about the suggestion but "on second thoughts...maybe not".
12:58:30 <sbp> --
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15:07:07 <[bjoern]> yo
15:08:41 <sbp> welcome to the world's oldest digital jalapaño pepper producer
15:08:51 <sbp> how may we be of service to your industrial needs?
15:10:38 <[bjoern]> You have yet to prove yourself worthy in matters of my industrial needs.
15:10:38 <Monty> "idiot savant" seems to join in that conveys an external
15:10:54 <[bjoern]> That, for example, could be an issue.
15:11:06 <[bjoern]> Happy mailman day.
15:15:23 <sbp> [bjoern]: lols at Mozilla by the way
15:15:35 <[bjoern]> hehe
15:16:30 <sbp> you should graph it
15:16:42 <sbp> transcoding crapness, as a function of how long shit takes to get done:
15:16:48 <sbp> Mozilla |--------------------------------------------------------------|
15:16:53 <sbp> Other Leading Brand |---|
15:19:36 <[bjoern]> Usually best to have some [superlong bar cut here to fit into chart] in the middle of that
15:20:07 <[bjoern]> don't quite have software that would generate pretty ones... maybe time for another search for one.
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15:22:08 <sbp> you could always use the Google api
15:22:11 <sbp> ...
15:31:09 <[bjoern]> This is not too shabby for something running in the browser (under SilverLight it would appear) http://www.visifire.com/silverlight_charts_gallery.php
15:34:53 <sbp> eek
15:35:45 <[bjoern]> Hey as Mac user you should be used to eye cancer.
15:37:05 <sbp> well you can turn a lot of it off
15:37:10 <sbp> it doesn't make OS X very happy though
15:37:16 <sbp> it tries to turn it back on again
15:37:26 <sbp> so you have to chide it as though a disobedient dog
15:38:14 <[bjoern]> Windows Server 2003 requires you to jump through many hoops to turn on all the schnizzle, by default you get windows 98 look and feel.
15:38:34 <_ulises> id rather have all the nice blue colours of windows me
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16:11:40 <Monty> Thank goodness, The_Pot is back!
16:16:01 <[bjoern]> so what's the hg schnizzle to checkout just the files from some particular revision? hg clone -r ... http://... the best I can do?
16:16:01 <Monty> didn't know how did boobs
16:16:24 <[bjoern]> Monty, doing boobs is an art.
16:16:28 <Monty> what if you couldn't turn it seperates autism as "something else"
16:16:42 <[bjoern]> Monty, then you would seek a work around.
16:16:43 <Monty> championed spiffy!
16:17:05 <sbp> yeah, something like that
16:17:10 <sbp> easier if they have a bundle, maybe
16:17:12 <sbp> dunno
16:17:32 <[bjoern]> as in, a separate download? or is that some hg stuff?
16:17:42 <sbp> hg stuff, but also a separate download
16:17:51 <sbp> you put the whole repo into a single file that hg knows about
16:17:55 <sbp> called a bundle
16:18:04 <sbp> if it's made available, it makes stuff simple
16:18:08 <sbp> if not, pwnt
16:18:13 <[bjoern]> so
16:18:16 <[bjoern]> how would I find out?
16:18:25 <sbp> it'd have to be linked
16:18:31 <sbp> there's no standard address or anything
16:18:44 <sbp> I think I did argue on the hg wiki once that it should check for a standard bundle location
16:18:54 <sbp> but guess whether they listen to common sense
16:19:21 <[bjoern]> They are making version control software. Doesn't that say it all?
16:19:40 <sbp> heh, heh
16:19:53 <sbp> try rolling back to common sense, bozos
16:21:24 <[bjoern]> found they have some viewcvs like thing that gives you tarballs.
16:21:32 <[bjoern]> also, the clone is complete
16:22:31 <sbp> yeah, that viewcvs thing is needed to clone from http, I think
16:22:40 <sbp> if you don't have that, you need to use http-static://
16:22:42 <sbp> or static-http://
16:22:55 <sbp> it's all very simple! just as you'd expect!
16:23:14 <[bjoern]> So why are people using hg anyway, I thought git is da nu shit
16:23:58 <sbp> ugh, no
16:24:05 <sbp> though tav was saying so the other day
16:24:13 <sbp> I always thought darcs was quite nice
16:24:17 <sbp> about even with hg
16:24:46 <sqrt2> hq is less to type than git
16:24:48 <sqrt2> *hg
16:24:50 <sqrt2> oh man
16:25:12 <sqrt2> seriously, the concepts are the same anyway. i'm told the differences are minimal
16:26:29 <sbp> yeah, lucky it's shorter
16:26:36 <sbp> otherwise it might be susceptible to typos
16:27:28 <sqrt2> the main thing is the 1100 baud line i'm using to connect to the internet
16:27:34 <sqrt2> every byte counts
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16:46:10 <nsh> 11. but some bits count more than others
16:46:27 <[bjoern]> We call them Busy Bits.
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17:09:29 <Monty> hey panni_
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17:10:22 <cre8radix> [bjoern]: http://dannybruder.net/bruder/?page_id=26
17:15:04 <[bjoern]> nice
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17:20:42 <Monty> hey leobard
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17:56:20 <[bjoern]> .gc "vorsprung durch readme"
17:56:21 <phenny> "vorsprung durch readme": 350
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18:31:01 <Monty> hi xjrn, how ya doing?
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18:51:30 <Monty> welcome, procto
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19:07:36 <deltab> hero of the day, newesreader Jon Snow: http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/05/01/a-tale-of-revolving-doors-and-lateral-thinking/
19:09:30 <sbp> hehe
19:10:53 <sbp> if you were going to be saved from a zip related calamity by a celebrity though, you'd want George off of Rainbow to do it. then when people ask, you could say, "yeah, George off of Rainbow saved me". and they'd say "not Zippy". and you'd say, "no"
19:13:36 <deltab> yeah, because Zippy is far more likely to get *into* a zip-related calamity
19:13:46 <sbp> troodatfoshez
19:14:08 <deltab> so George likely has some previous experience in sorting them out
19:14:13 <sbp> did you ever think that Zippy sounded a bit like John Major?
19:14:31 <deltab> John who?
19:14:42 <sbp> used to be the prime minister of a small island nation
19:15:07 <deltab> oh, the one who ran away from the circus
19:15:34 <sbp> some say he came back
19:16:40 <deltab> saw a programme last night about food technology, and how Thatcher helped invent soft-scoop ice-cream (30% air)
19:16:54 <sbp> don't tell me, they used her air?
19:17:22 <deltab> she was a food technologist
19:17:28 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 43 minutes to watch HIGNFY. deltab too
19:17:29 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Fri May 01 20:58:14 BST 2009
19:17:39 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 43 minutes to hope it's better than last week's
19:17:39 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Fri May 01 20:58:25 BST 2009
19:17:53 <sbp> oh actually I think I knew that
19:18:05 <sbp> didn't they go to the place where she used to work on Time Team?
19:18:12 <sbp> no, I must be getting horribly confused there somewhere
19:18:26 <deltab> heh
19:18:36 <deltab> and Blair advertises toothpaste, I imagine
19:19:04 <sbp> .title http://www.catalystmedia.org.uk/issues/misc/articles/toothpaste.php
19:19:06 <phenny> sbp: Catalyst Articles - Tony Blair Toothpaste: Sale now on!
19:19:52 * sbp finds the Bush and Blair toothpaste story
19:22:03 <sbp> oh weird, John Major is on BBC News
19:22:09 <sbp> they're putting a very strange looking hat on him
19:22:17 <sbp> and now he's gone. brief cameo
19:22:33 <sbp> see, I knew he existed
19:22:36 <sbp> the hat confirms it
19:23:02 <sbp> that was an extremely strange clip. I don't have the sound up
19:23:10 <sbp> I'm not convinced it would have made more sense with sound
19:25:03 <sbp> phenny: tell nsh surname: Munro
19:25:04 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
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20:00:38 <sbp> thanks for reminding us, Monty
20:00:38 <Monty> Please go on.
20:00:43 <sbp> yeah, fuck you
20:00:43 <Monty> potty mouth!
20:00:47 <sbp> calling deltab. HIGNFY
20:00:54 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to watch HIGNFY. deltab too
20:00:56 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to hope it's better than last week's
20:00:57 <sbp> ha
20:01:01 <sbp> .tock
20:01:01 <phenny> "Fri, 01 May 2009 20:01:01 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
20:01:07 <sbp> UR CLOK IS WRONG MONTY
20:01:08 <Monty> wipes Microsoft?
20:01:09 <sbp> pls fix
20:01:24 <[bjoern]> you calculated the time offset incorrectly.
20:02:20 <deltab> sbp: hey, you can stop watching me
20:02:43 <[bjoern]> but it's so exciting!
20:06:55 <sbp> they advise oinkment for pigflu
20:07:18 * sbp has stopped watching deltab and started watching HIGNFY
20:07:38 <[bjoern]> there is a suggestion to rename it SPACE HERPES
20:23:09 <sbp> .gc sausage-dog-horse
20:23:10 <phenny> sausage-dog-horse: 86,600
20:23:16 <sbp> .gc "sausage-dog-horse"
20:23:16 <phenny> "sausage-dog-horse": 82
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20:30:42 <sbp> yes, that was good
20:30:45 <sbp> that was a success
20:31:00 <deltab> Ben Stiller in Jammie Dodgeball
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22:03:55 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell cre8radix http://asta-viadrina.de/index.php?nn=1&id=127
22:03:55 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when cre8radix is around.
22:20:46 <deltab> .gc meningitisfail
22:20:47 <phenny> meningitisfail: 14
22:36:16 * jessica is wondering if she's got mononucleosis or aporkalypse '09 or she's just really bored and possibly over-tired.
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23:09:15 <MoiraA> heh jessica
23:09:22 <MoiraA> lol, what have you got?
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23:09:29 <danopia> hey
23:09:43 <MoiraA> hello
23:09:54 <danopia> what was i saying?
23:09:56 <MoiraA> this is the home of a lot of good programmers so you may like it
23:10:04 <MoiraA> we were discussing the various languages
23:10:18 <danopia> how many people here are VB.NET fanbois
23:10:21 * danopia waits to get shot
23:10:29 <MoiraA> me :)
23:10:35 <MoiraA> in that, it's what I know best
23:10:39 <danopia> wait..... your nick looks familiar
23:10:47 <MoiraA> I really should learn something different
23:10:56 <danopia> i did
23:11:03 <danopia> and do you hang out in ##vb.net sometimes?
23:11:24 <MoiraA> no
23:11:31 <MoiraA> lol you have voice now in defocus
23:12:22 <danopia> i love OOP languages
23:12:27 <danopia> so basically ruby and VB.NET
23:18:05 <MoiraA> object orientated? hmm
23:18:19 <MoiraA> that's very much what VB.NET has become
23:18:50 <MoiraA> I suppose I came from the background of vba
23:19:06 <MoiraA> where it's not OOP at all really
23:19:18 <MoiraA> I still feel I had more freedom
23:21:47 <deltab> VBA used to script Excel?
23:22:00 <MoiraA> yes
23:22:03 <MoiraA> all of office
23:22:17 <deltab> which was full of objects
23:22:42 <deltab> worksheets, rows, columns, cells, etc.
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23:37:33 <MoiraA> yeah OK deltab but if you wanted a form, you made one from scratch
23:37:46 <MoiraA> .NET it's all just there to click on
23:39:13 <deltab> I don
23:39:19 <deltab> 't know what you mean by that
23:39:24 <jsled> .title http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-01-swine-flu-vaccine_N.htm
23:39:25 <phenny> jsled: CDC official: 1st step in developing a swine flu 'going quite well' - USATODAY.com
23:39:45 <jsled> I'll say. They're doing a great job with the bioweapon research program, so far.
23:41:34 <danopia> .
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