Swhack! 22 May 2009
00:03:06 <deltab> phenny: ask sbp So NSCFArrays don't have absolute urls? how are you meant to make RDF statements about them?
00:03:07 <phenny> deltab: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:05:09 <[bjoern]> I like the google results for NSCFArrays - "What the heck", "Troll-fre bridge type at runtime", and "memory leak in deepMutableCopy"
00:05:19 <[bjoern]> Admittedly I read an "r" too much into one of them
00:05:37 <[bjoern]> and insufficiently many es.
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00:44:47 <Monty2> howdy, Jibbler2
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01:02:02 <Monty2> yo jeffarch!
01:14:45 <[bjoern]> remind me in 10 minutes to !
01:14:45 <Monty2> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Fri May 22 02:25:11 BST 2009
01:16:31 <[bjoern]> .thesaurus remainder
01:16:32 <phenny> [bjoern]: rest, residue, remnants, remains, leftovers, what's left, balance
01:25:04 <Monty2> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
01:25:23 <[bjoern]> Monty2: I was afraid you were gonna say that.
01:25:23 <Monty2> ahh
01:25:38 <[bjoern]> That was not quite my reaction Monty2
01:25:42 <Monty2> It's true to say that microscopic stale payback closes sub-zero hardcore bezlers :(
01:25:50 <[bjoern]> countdown
01:25:50 <Monty2> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 3, 1, 3, 9, 1. Your target is 171. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
01:26:02 <[bjoern]> .c 3*(50+9-1-1)
01:26:03 <phenny> 3 * (50 + 9 - 1 - 1) = 171
01:26:21 <Monty2> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
01:26:22 <Monty2> I found a solution in approximately 16 milliseconds. I found all 1380 solutions in about 94 milliseconds.
01:26:25 <Monty2> ibot (50 - 1 + 9 - 1)*3
01:26:26 <phenny> (50 - 1 + 9 - 1) * 3 = 171
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05:20:27 <[bjoern]> remind me in 660 minutes to !!!!!!!
05:20:27 <Monty2> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Fri May 22 17:20:54 BST 2009
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09:27:32 <sbp> yo
09:27:32 <phenny> sbp: 00:03Z <deltab> ask sbp So NSCFArrays don't have absolute urls? how are you meant to make RDF statements about them?
09:27:33 <phenny> sbp: 00:53Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://mssv.net/2009/05/21/infinite-jest-finite-reason/
09:27:34 <phenny> sbp: 01:04Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://mssv.net/2009/05/21/infinite-jest-finite-reason/
09:28:06 <sbp> yeah, no RDF from Finder!
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09:28:21 <_ulises> yo sbp
09:28:40 <sbp> yo _ulises
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09:34:49 <Monty2> hey chris2
09:38:32 <sbp> Sir Ranulph Fiennes has a little bit of vertigo?!
09:39:24 <sbp> “vertigo. ...you suffer from vertio, Sir Ranulph?” “I do, but I can get round that by not looking down”
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09:56:43 <sbp> Frau Storch is still sitting on the nest
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13:09:27 <sbp> .yi
13:09:27 <phenny> Yes! PARTAI!
13:09:33 *** sbp changed the topic to: "PARTAI!"
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13:41:43 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8061979.stm
13:41:45 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | UK | Pornographic videos flood YouTube
13:42:43 <sbp> “As the disturbing videos were being uploaded, many viewers added them to their favourites and rated them highly.”
13:42:48 <sbp> apparently it was a 4chan thing
13:46:02 <clsn> sbp: http://tinypic.com/r/so1xf9/5 (the top and bottom read "And God said..." "And there was light"). I have a T-shirt like it in English already, but without the faded-parchment look.
13:46:13 <clsn> So I thought I'd work on a faded-parchment one.
13:47:40 <clsn> I just misspent an hour working on an ℵ₁≟C shirt that is cooler than just the equation written down. Still not done, but I have to do actual stuff. I'll show you if you want.
13:50:00 <sbp> chuckle
13:50:10 <sbp> hmm, one of those is Faraday's Law
13:50:17 <sbp> what are the others? all electromagnetic, I assume
13:50:31 <clsn> Maxwell's Equations.
13:50:42 <clsn> I have a shirt in Hebrew which uses the relativity equations, but that isn
13:50:47 <clsn> that isn't the right set.
13:50:56 <clsn> You can derive the phenomenon of light from Maxwell's.
13:51:06 <clsn> You can even prove that light travels at the speed of light.
13:51:08 <sbp> ah, thanks
13:51:14 <clsn> Which is less obvious than it might seem.
13:51:18 <sbp> c = c
13:51:33 <clsn> You can also do Maxwell's equations in integral form; the differential form looks cool too.
13:54:06 <clsn> http://web.meson.org/cache/alephshirt.png for the unfinished continuum shirt.
13:55:01 <sbp> now you just need it in one of those reversable scripts
13:55:10 <sbp> so it looks the same when you're hanging upside down
13:56:17 <clsn> Mmm. Nah, not part of the joke, not worth stressing over.
13:56:50 <clsn> Maybe a motto "Undecidable" or something underneath it, but that might be too obvious.
13:57:46 <Charles> Forgive my ignorance, but what does the big C mean?
14:00:46 <sbp> Charles: the size of the set of real numbers
14:01:11 <Charles> Oh, I see.
14:01:33 <sbp> “Many mathematicians believe that C and aleph-one are the same, but this cannot be proven. (It is provable that it cannot be proven)” — http://math.bu.edu/people/jeffs/mathematicians.html
14:03:56 <Charles> Ah.. so then what do the digits on the diagonal signify?
14:04:10 <clsn> Slightly a bummer that C doesn't have a cooler symbol associated with it. It may actually have, but not one widely known.
14:04:36 <clsn> The proof that ℵ₀<C involves the diagonal like that.
14:05:31 <Charles> Ah. I must read up on this..
14:06:17 <clsn> .wik cantor's diagonalization proof
14:06:18 <phenny> "Cantor's diagonal argument, also called the diagonalisation argument, the diagonal slash argument or the diagonal method, was published in 1891 by Georg Cantor as a proof that there are infinite sets which cannot be put into one-to-one correspondence with the infinite [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor's_diagonal_argument
14:10:57 <Charles> ahh, of course. Nice idea for a shirt.
14:12:02 <clsn> That's what I thought. I am in fact currently wearing a shirt that says "ℵ₁=C?", but it's pretty simple. Had it made when I was in Israel once, thinking "where else can I find tourist T-shirt shops that have hebrew letters to iron on?"
14:12:14 <clsn> This was before cafepress.com. In 1985 I think.
14:12:43 <Charles> And you're still wearing it? Must've been a pretty good print.
14:15:52 <clsn> It's definitely faded a little. But it isn't like I wore it every day.
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15:39:46 <[bjoern]> yo
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15:49:06 <sbp> yo ['
15:49:28 <[bjoern]> p, hous trix?
15:51:13 <sbp> trix in da haus!
15:51:27 <sbp> been looking at the early modern classifications of igneous meteors
15:51:29 <sbp> you?
15:51:44 <[bjoern]> I've been doing the same thing!
15:51:56 <[bjoern]> Except, I was asleep while doing it.
15:52:15 <sbp> woah, cool. do you remember any of it?
15:53:04 <sbp> you'll be excited to know that (as usual) they seem mainly to have stolen from classical writers, with a bit of colloquiality and folk understanding thrown in for flavour
15:53:16 <sbp> and then mercilessly stole from one another, changing bits as they went
15:53:29 <sbp> but that, all the same, there's some interesting stuff in there
15:54:00 <[bjoern]> .o0{ zzzz....zzzzz.....zzzz.... }
15:54:40 <sbp> oh, and it was yi earlier
15:54:43 <sbp> might even still be yi!
15:54:44 <sbp> .yi
15:54:45 <phenny> Yes! PARTAI!
15:54:47 <sbp> YES!
15:54:59 <[bjoern]> .yingle bells
15:55:00 <sbp> also, <sbp> Frau Storch is still sitting on the nest
15:55:09 <sbp> and she still is
15:55:17 <[bjoern]> peeking her foot atm
15:55:21 <[bjoern]> ee?
15:55:25 <[bjoern]> ic
15:56:19 <[bjoern]> Yesterday I captured this one http://imagebin.ca/view/q6yI5d3.html
15:56:33 <sbp> oh man
15:56:38 <sbp> you've been looking at other nests!
15:56:39 <sbp> I knew it!
15:57:10 <sbp> also, you may not have heard about the sexual terrorist attack on children
15:57:17 <sbp> perpetrated by 4chan and now in the national news
15:57:48 <sbp> they spliced together a bunch of childrens' videos (Hannah Montana, the Jonas Brothers, etc.) with hardcore porn. then they uploaded thousands of these videos to Youtube
15:57:55 <sbp> people started tagging them and rating them up and so on
15:58:06 <sbp> then it all went predictably media-shaped
15:58:13 <[bjoern]> I heard them planning taking over youtube a few days ago
15:58:23 <sbp> ah, there you go then. well they did it
15:58:26 <sbp> huge condemnation from BBC News
15:58:36 <sbp> but the funniest thing on BBC News was their caption, which was like:
15:58:46 <sbp> "Content violates Youtube terms of use."
15:58:53 <sbp> which was a mex2chox thing
15:59:02 <[bjoern]> clicking through http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-42626.html now
16:00:14 <sbp> page six is unexpected
16:00:45 <[bjoern]> true
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16:06:04 <sbp> WRONG BUTTAN
16:07:20 <[bjoern]> or an elaborate plot to confuse us
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16:08:25 <clsn> Dammit, how do I tell apache to *accept* a PUT request???
16:09:08 <sbp> clsn: enable mod_put?
16:09:22 <sbp> also you need to add some crap doing accept,deny
16:09:52 <[bjoern]> Limit / LimitExcept
16:10:03 <clsn> The implication in the docs is that everything is allowed by default if there is no LIMIT...
16:10:07 <sbp> <Limit PUT>
16:10:08 <sbp> allow from all
16:10:08 <sbp> </Limit>
16:10:17 <sbp> clsn: I don't think that's true in the case of PUT
16:11:39 <sbp> (incidentally, I somehow managed to hit Tab whilst doing Command+W on a bunch of Safari tabs, and so I nuked my leftmost X-Chat Aqua tab, which is of course #swhack)
16:13:27 <clsn> Yeah, I just tried the same construction you're suggesting, waiting to see if it works.
16:13:51 <clsn> Damn!
16:13:58 <[bjoern]> the default configuration of your server may very well have limit
16:13:59 <clsn> Unless it doesn't count because it's in the .htaccess.
16:14:12 <clsn> No, there's no Limit in the config, I looked.
16:14:19 <[bjoern]> all files?
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16:16:46 <[bjoern]> heh re latest change http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/httpd.conf.in?view=log - he actually did when I told em he did not make the change back in feb
16:17:16 <[bjoern]> so in a few years we'll see lots of content-type less content on the web
16:19:44 <clsn> Yeah, all files... I put it in now, and it STILL isn't helping.
16:20:33 <Monty2> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !!!!!!!
16:21:32 <clsn> Argh!!
16:21:33 <Monty2> her of traffic on an idea of course #swhack)
16:22:54 <[bjoern]> Well so change the limit then
16:23:00 <clsn> I did.
16:23:17 <[bjoern]> and what do you get on put?
16:23:20 <[bjoern]> what is in the error log?
16:23:42 <clsn> I put in a <Limit PUT> Allow from all</Limit> in the relevant directories. No error, just the access log indicates that it's sending back a 405.
16:23:56 <clsn> Oh, and I did a reload on the dæmon.
16:24:07 <[bjoern]> in a .htaccess?
16:24:18 <[bjoern]> do those dirs have AllowOverride?
16:24:32 <clsn> No, in the actual http.conf just in case it didn't allow from an .htaccess.
16:24:32 <[bjoern]> as in, do .htaccess files work there at all?
16:24:36 <[bjoern]> i see
16:24:39 <sbp> in a penis, in a robot
16:25:06 <clsn> .htaccess files DO work there, I have confirmed, for at least some things. But once it whined about something that had to be in the actual config file.
16:25:57 <[bjoern]> what do you use as put handler?
16:26:33 <[bjoern]> what is the Order directive in scope of your <limits>?
16:26:36 <clsn> (actually it's in .htaccess AND the conf file). It's a mod_python thing. But it isn't even being called. It does get activated if I do a GET there, but the PUT doesn't even touch it.
16:27:11 <clsn> Not sure, I don't think I specified an Order. If I put one in there would it help? presumably Order allow, deny, right before the Allow from all?
16:27:25 <[bjoern]> something like that
16:28:02 <[bjoern]> you could also try <LimitExcept GRABS>allow from all</LimitExcept> for a change...
16:28:04 <clsn> Oh, looks like there's an Order allow, deny in the <Directory> block a little above the Limit already.
16:28:45 <clsn> Meh. If PUT isn't allowed by default, messing with some other method and counting on it to open up "everything else" sounds a lot less reliable than saying "ALLOW THIS ONE DAMMIT."
16:29:15 <[bjoern]> but then you are desperate.
16:30:21 <clsn> There is that. I just added an Order to the .htaccess file Just In Case that's what mattered.
16:32:03 <clsn> Damn.
16:32:11 <[bjoern]> There is always #apache
16:33:14 <[bjoern]> man google is trying to google suggest all the time now, which is super annoying. causes the "loading/done" icon to flicker like hell, and it no longer properly accepts enter for form submission
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16:48:35 <xodium> Interesting. Adium 1.4b1 has IRC support.
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16:48:41 <clsn> Aha. Tried telnetting and doing a put myself. And sure enough, it says Allow: GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS,TRACE
16:48:55 <cre8radix> heya
16:50:21 <[bjoern]> xover has begin imitation google.
16:52:36 <xodium> Looks fairly decent so far, apart from letting you scroll only the user list and not the actual chat.
16:54:07 <xodium> It even does a half decent job of handling multiple channels.
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17:46:04 <sbp> ...you can't scroll the chat?
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17:57:21 <xodium> Well, it tries to auto-scroll, but, yeah, you can't scroll the chat.
17:57:47 <sbp> I'd think that would be third on my list of required features
17:57:55 <sbp> after 1) sends text. 2) receives text
17:57:57 <[bjoern]> my client autoscrolls to the bottom each time somebody says something
17:58:08 <[bjoern]> which makes copying from the backlog interesting
17:58:13 <xodium> So probably around beta 3 then you recon?
17:58:33 <sbp> who's it made by, Mozilla?
17:58:52 <xodium> heh heh
17:59:08 <[bjoern]> Careful, or i give you some mozilla.
18:00:00 <sbp> sounds like a very tasty cheese
18:00:04 <sbp> or a very crappy browser
18:00:05 <xodium> Heh. It also lets you add nicks as contacts.
18:01:06 <xodium> Weird.
18:01:23 <xodium> Oh, it just acquired a scroll-bar!
18:01:58 <xodium> This might actually be a marginally useful feature.
18:04:06 <sbp> was there an option for it?
18:05:14 <xodium> No, there just wasn't enough text in the scrollback before. The previous perceived lack was due to some scrolling glitch where the bottom of the text was outside the viewport.
18:05:54 <sbp> you're saying we're not verbose enough?
18:06:08 <xodium> Hmm. And combining contacts across multiple networks (MSN, Jabber, IRC) looks quite handy.
18:06:31 <sbp> hey, Jabber. you could talk to [bjoern] on that
18:06:47 <xodium> Or you, if you ever started your Google Talk client.
18:06:53 <sbp> heh, heh
18:07:14 <sbp> I don't think there is one for OS X
18:07:20 <sbp> I just used Adium, as far as I recall
18:07:27 <sbp> and I uninstalled that ages ago when I needed some space
18:07:51 <xodium> …if you ever started whatever client application you preferred for the Google Talk service.
18:08:01 <[bjoern]> It's quite possible I had ICQ before I had e-mail.
18:08:38 <xodium> That's the new “Internet via AOL" you know.
18:08:51 <[bjoern]> AOL offers Internet now?
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18:24:12 <Monty2> welcome, treed
18:24:21 <[bjoern]> treed. What is thy bidding?
18:24:33 <treed> Money.
18:24:38 <treed> Lots of money.
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18:24:59 <[bjoern]> Nice try, but it won't work.
18:25:24 <sbp> we're not going to give him money?
18:25:46 <cre8radix> even i was paid!
18:25:49 <cre8radix> O_O
18:26:03 <[bjoern]> I thought he was bidding money.
18:26:21 <sbp> Swhack is for sale?
18:26:28 <[bjoern]> nu
18:26:28 <sbp> you should tell me before putting it up for sale
18:26:38 <sbp> I should tell me?
18:26:39 * cre8radix thought sbp just sold it yesterday!?
18:26:52 <[bjoern]> you so lag.
18:27:12 <cre8radix> i like so lack
18:27:21 <cre8radix> everything...
18:27:43 <[bjoern]> I always figured you to be the Lack & Leder type.
18:27:56 <cre8radix> lack mich
18:27:59 <cre8radix> :D
18:28:11 <[bjoern]> Pass auf, sonst wirst du geledert.
18:28:42 * cre8radix puts on his lederstrumpfmaske
18:29:45 <cre8radix> [bjoern]: morgen --> http://www.thomasmoehle.de/zensur/index.php/GrundrechtefestBerlin
18:30:03 <[bjoern]> Yeah I know
18:30:11 <[bjoern]> None here though, last I checked
18:30:16 <cre8radix> gonna flash teh mobz?
18:30:21 <cre8radix> oh
18:30:23 <cre8radix> 2bad
18:30:32 <[bjoern]> Also, I called Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst about your Strumpfmaske.
18:30:40 <cre8radix> well then... guess it's up 2 you!
18:30:46 <cre8radix> heh
18:30:49 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "I have a good German joke:"?
18:30:49 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: "Ich habe eine gute Deutsch-Witz:" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:30:49 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:30:49 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:30:49 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:30:50 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:30:52 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:30:54 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:30:56 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:30:58 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:31:03 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:31:07 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:31:09 <sbp> 19:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why did the cock cross the road?"?
18:31:13 <sbp> 19:30 <phenny> ...
18:31:20 <cre8radix> :D
18:31:22 <cre8radix> hrhr
18:31:36 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Why, did the chicken cross the road?"
18:31:43 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Why, did the chicken cross the road?"?
18:31:44 <phenny> [bjoern]: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
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18:32:22 <cre8radix> phenny: "Warum überquerte das Huhn die Straße?"?
18:32:22 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Warum überquerte das Huhn die Strasse?"?
18:32:23 <phenny> cre8radix: "Why the chicken crossed the road?" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:32:24 <phenny> [bjoern]: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:32:45 <[bjoern]> phenny, de en "Warum überquerte das Huhn die Strasse?"?
18:32:46 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Why the chicken crossed the road?" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:33:16 <cre8radix> phenny: "Warumhatte das Huhn die Straße überquert?"?
18:33:17 <phenny> cre8radix: "Why did the chicken cross the road?" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:33:21 <[bjoern]> phenny, de en "Warum hat das Huhn die Strasse überquert?"?
18:33:22 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Why did the chicken cross the road?" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:33:33 <sbp> phenny: en de "Why the chicken crossed the road?"?
18:33:33 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:33:48 <sbp> phenny: en de "CHICKEN. ROAD. WHY CROSSED, PLEASE?"?
18:33:51 <phenny> sbp: "Huhn. ROAD. WARUM CROSSED, bitte?" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:34:05 <cre8radix> phenny: "Warum keine vollendete Vergangenheit"?
18:34:06 <phenny> cre8radix: "Why not perfect the past" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:34:10 <cre8radix> lol
18:34:13 <cre8radix> yeah
18:34:16 <cre8radix> WHY???
18:34:26 <[bjoern]> perhaps the en de transcoding has trouble with umlauts?
18:34:50 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Why did the chicken cross the sea?"
18:34:52 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Why did the chicken cross the sea?"?
18:34:53 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Warum hat das Huhn über den See?" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:35:11 <[bjoern]> pretty suggestive
18:35:19 <cre8radix> :)
18:35:33 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Why did the chicken cross the highway?"?
18:35:35 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Warum hat das Huhn über die Autobahn?" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:35:36 <sbp> perhaps it has problems with ß
18:35:50 <[bjoern]> That's an unlaut.
18:35:53 <cre8radix> phenny: "ß"?
18:35:54 <phenny> cre8radix: The de to en translation failed, sorry!
18:36:04 <sbp> well it didn't have problems with über
18:36:05 <cre8radix> phenny: "äh"?
18:36:06 <phenny> cre8radix: "um" (sv to en, translate.google.com)
18:36:17 <cre8radix> phenny: "äh laut"?
18:36:18 <phenny> cre8radix: "uh, according to" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:36:21 <sbp> but Straße would be in there wohuldne... that word went wrong
18:36:25 <xodium> phenny, en de "road"?
18:36:25 <cre8radix> rofl
18:36:25 <phenny> xodium: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:36:26 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Road"?
18:36:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Road" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:36:32 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "The road"?
18:36:32 <phenny> [bjoern]: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:36:35 <sbp> phenny: en de "street"?
18:36:36 <phenny> sbp: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:36:44 <sbp> phenny: en de "avenue"?
18:36:44 <phenny> sbp: "avenue" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:36:48 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "The mass"?
18:36:48 <sbp> phenny: en de "boulevard"?
18:36:48 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Die Masse" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:36:49 <phenny> sbp: "Boulevard" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:37:03 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Catch him!"?
18:37:04 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Fangen Sie ihm!" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:37:07 <[bjoern]> hehe
18:37:26 <cre8radix> phenny: "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod"?
18:37:27 <phenny> cre8radix: "The dative is the death of his Genitive" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:37:36 <sbp> poor Tod
18:37:50 <sbp> his date doesn't like his genitals
18:37:52 <sbp> or something
18:38:08 <cre8radix> he's just too skinny!
18:38:24 <[bjoern]> It's genitive case, not genital case.
18:38:26 <sbp> maybe he has a pukka penis though
18:40:11 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Your size is insufficient."?
18:40:12 <phenny> [bjoern]: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
18:40:26 <[bjoern]> phenny, en de "Please blow me"?
18:40:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Bitte Blow Me" (en to de, translate.google.com)
18:40:36 <sbp> just like in English!
18:41:10 <[bjoern]> .gc kiemenfußkrebse
18:41:11 <phenny> kiemenfußkrebse: 276
18:41:30 <sbp> “to Elena Bonker... ... ...Bonderenko. Gotta get that name right.”
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18:41:36 <sbp> — BBC News Sports presenter
18:45:47 * cre8radix goes to rock the show!
18:45:49 <cre8radix> l8r
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18:46:16 <sbp> man, our Home Secretary is such a comedy act
18:46:31 <sbp> there's a police database of numberplates picked up by CCTV
18:46:38 <sbp> everybody is on it, data gets wiped after two years
18:46:49 <xodium> .wik Home Secretary
18:46:50 <phenny> "The Secretary of State for the Home Department, commonly known as the Home Secretary, is the minister in charge of the United Kingdom Home Office and is one of the Great Offices of State." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Secretary
18:46:50 <sbp> so the BBC interviewed the Information Commissioner
18:46:59 <sbp> and he said it's unregulated, they have no control over it
18:47:22 <sbp> the police basically aren't being held to account for it
18:47:38 <sbp> so then they interviewed the Home Secretary, and asked her what controls there are over it
18:47:44 <sbp> and she said the police are subject to the law
18:47:49 <sbp> and that they're regulated by...
18:47:56 <sbp> you guessed it, the Information Commissioner!
18:48:08 <sbp> and the interviewer mentions that they've spoken to him, and he doesn't seem to think so...g
18:48:21 <sbp> and she said "oh and we could bring in extra legislation if need be..."
18:48:38 <sbp> our Home Secretary: good comedy
18:51:18 <sbp> [[[
18:51:19 <sbp> It is commonly believed that, when Neville Chamberlain announced his flight to Munich to the cheers of the House, Amery was one of only four members who remained seated (the others were Churchill, Anthony Eden and Harold Nicolson). There is, however, some debate as to whether Amery did in fact remain seated, or whether he just appeared to because he was so short!
18:51:28 <sbp> ]]] — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Amery
18:52:31 <[bjoern]> .u angs
18:52:32 <phenny> U+212B ANGSTROM SIGN (Å)
18:54:35 <sbp> Angst ROM
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19:04:33 <sbp> [[[
19:04:34 <sbp> Gauss, Karl Friedrich: German mathematician, known for his brilliance. At the age of 19, he had to decide on graduate school, and two things interested him: philology (what we would call linguistics today) and mathematics. He made his decision when he determined how to construct, using compass and straightedge alone, a regular septendecagon (a seventeen sided figure).
19:04:43 <sbp> ]]] — http://math.bu.edu/people/jeffs/mathematicians.html
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19:38:33 <sbp> man, Andrew MacKay is funny too
19:38:46 <sbp> he's arguing with one of his constituents about how many people were clapping for him
19:38:55 <sbp> at a meeting arranged by the local Conservatives
19:39:21 <sbp> he's still saying it. he's saying it again and again
19:39:28 <sbp> and people are heckling him in the background
19:40:58 <sbp> BBC reporter was there for almost the whole meeting, said that people seemed mostly hostile
19:41:04 <sbp> that they weren't happy with the answers, etc.
19:42:00 <sbp> another one now, Anthony Steen
19:42:12 <sbp> the local Conservatives are holding a meeting, he hasn't turned up
19:42:27 <sbp> David Cameron's warned him over saying that people are just jealous
19:42:40 <sbp> jealous of his house, which he compared to Balmoral (one of the Queen's residences)
19:43:16 <sbp> the expenses row has turned out to be pretty great in a way
19:43:27 <sbp> people are actually learning what complete berks some MPs are
19:45:45 <sbp> somewhat disappointing that not all are coming under scrutiny though, only the ones who obviously did stupid things. they'd probably find that some of the expenses-twisting MPs are actually nicer than the "clean" ones
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19:50:06 <sbp> BBC defending itself against making a scapegoat out of the Speaker
19:53:49 <sbp> .gc florality
19:53:49 <phenny> florality: 42,700
19:57:58 <sbp> man, I've no idea how ministers and shadow ministers can combine their ministerial duties with their constituency duties. they must outsource some of their stto India or something
19:58:03 <sbp> *tasks to
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20:00:19 <sbp> deltab: HIGNFY!
20:02:12 <sbp> aww yeah, it's Reginald D. Hunter!
20:11:56 <sbp> .gc "and hard word from their"
20:11:57 <phenny> "and hard word from their": 0
20:12:08 <clsn> .gc coolth
20:12:08 <phenny> coolth: 24,700
20:17:02 <clsn> .gc antichthon
20:17:02 <phenny> antichthon: 3,870
20:17:05 <clsn> .g antichthon
20:17:06 <phenny> clsn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth
20:30:03 <sbp> .gc "and hard word from thier"
20:30:04 <phenny> "and hard word from thier": 0
20:30:25 <sbp> misspelling misspellings is funny
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