Swhack! 10 November 2009
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01:43:43 <jsled> "C++ is like dating an extremely hot gymnast who is also batshit crazy. Sure she can do anything you want, but is it worth the effort?" — http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/a2elm/c_horrorshow/c0fjbry
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02:31:51 <[bjoern]> Hmm need an algorithm for: have a set of nodes, can tell for a pair of nodes is one is a descendant of the other, can tell for a pair of nodes if one is a preceding sibling of the other, want to write the graph out as xml document.
02:33:45 <[bjoern]> ah so basically i would have to sort them in document order and write them out...
02:39:26 <[bjoern]> the sorting is simple, a < b if a ancestor of b or a preceding sibling of b, have yet to decide if that's transitive though
02:41:28 <[bjoern]> does not seem to be the case...
02:42:19 <[bjoern]> so basically sort with the ancestor rel, then sort the adjacent ==s with the other rel
02:50:21 <[bjoern]> .o wa weather magdeburg
02:50:26 <phenny> weather->Magdeburg, Germany;temperature->43 deg F (wind chill: 40 deg F), conditions->rain, cloudy, relative humidity->100% (dew point: 43 deg F), wind speed->5 mph, (6 hours ago);, ->-> -> , minimum: 37 deg F, Sun, Nov 8, 7:45am->average: 45 deg F, ->maximum: 52 deg F, Thu, Nov 5, 1:45pm, ..., -> -> ;, ->previous week: overcast: 19.7% (18.2 ho
02:51:41 <MoiraA> [bjoern] I feel tired just thinking about that
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04:29:47 <[bjoern]> Solution turns out to be: sort nodes according to document order position relation, then do for all nodes a: for all nodes b: if b ancestor of a do b appendchild a.
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04:52:46 <[bjoern]> .c 443+46
04:52:46 <phenny> 443 + 46 = 489
04:53:37 <[bjoern]> .c 1629+46
04:53:38 <phenny> 1 629 + 46 = 1 675
04:54:42 <[bjoern]> .c 11809^2
04:54:43 <phenny> 11 809^2 = 139 452 481
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06:00:10 <[bjoern]> hmm there is probably an nlogn alternative there, pick a node, split the nodes into descendants, non-descendants; recursively process those.
06:01:06 <[bjoern]> well the complexity of that of course somewhat depends on the probabilities...
06:02:35 <[bjoern]> (if the data is entirely flat, you'd just create a n-1, n-2, n-3, ... set each time...)
06:13:09 <MoiraA> I am very impressed hearing how you're working this out :)
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06:58:02 <[bjoern]> .c 821627*2
06:58:02 <phenny> 821 627 * 2 = 1 643 254
07:10:02 <xover> I'm very much scared to see the compsci eating up our Björn.
07:10:30 <[bjoern]> Hey this is to chart weird causes of death!
07:11:24 <xover> So? You described it using the notation "nlogn".
07:11:58 <[bjoern]> Yeah that's because my skript was running asskrap slow.
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09:04:08 <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT PINBlock encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experienced people only , i pay alot of $ .
09:05:30 <sbp> CAD only pls
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09:15:04 <cre8radix> heya
09:42:10 <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT PINBlock encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experienced people only , i pay alot of $ .
09:43:56 <sbp> CAD only
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09:57:21 <Vortex> spb ?
09:59:02 <sbp> spb isn't here
09:59:26 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6907681.ece
09:59:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'm doing 'God's work'. Meet Mr Goldman Sachs - Times Online
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10:16:30 <[bjoern]> "More than 29,000 people in 27 countries were questioned. In only two countries, the United States and Pakistan, did more than one in five people feel that capitalism works well as it stands." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8347409.stm
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10:19:50 <sbp> ...Pakistan?
10:20:22 <[bjoern]> Perhaps U.S. drones answered the calls.
10:21:02 <sbp> hehe
10:22:32 <[bjoern]> Google shops "AdMob"
10:22:37 <[bjoern]> .wik AdMob
10:22:37 <phenny> "AdMob is a mobile advertising company based in San Mateo, California." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdMob
10:27:16 <sbp> shops? shop is a verb now?
10:27:24 <sbp> what is the activity in which shop-verb engages?
10:27:47 <sbp> "Brown: I feel for dead soldier's mother's grief"
10:29:55 <[bjoern]> I believe it is related to an ancient chinese tradition first documented by Sho' Ping in the early 6th dynastie.
10:30:31 <sbp> oh right, the Period of the Thousand Sho' Ping Bulls
10:31:35 <[bjoern]> Pity how that contracts to SPB there.
10:36:32 <[bjoern]> .gc "Fahrenheit 11/9"
10:36:33 <phenny> "Fahrenheit 11/9": 998
10:37:06 <[bjoern]> .leo Schelm
10:37:08 <phenny> der Schelm = imp, rogue
10:37:08 <phenny> ein kleiner Schelm = a naughty little beggar
10:37:10 <phenny> Ein Schelm, wer Böses dabei denkt. = Honi soit qui mal y pense. - motto of the Order of the Garter French
10:37:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Schelm
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10:39:09 <[bjoern]> "The motto also appears on the entry gates to pop star Michael Jackson's Neverland estate"
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12:34:56 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's monkinetic!
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13:40:08 <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT PINBlock encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experienced people only , i pay alot of $ .
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13:49:51 <sbp> CAD only
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14:06:24 <Monty> it's eel!
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14:27:07 <kpreid> [[[
14:27:07 <kpreid> There once was a man who would balk
14:27:07 <kpreid> Whenever we asked him to talk.
14:27:07 <kpreid> We thought it was queer,
14:27:08 <kpreid> 'Til he said, "My idea
14:27:08 <kpreid> Is to hide that I come from New York."
14:27:10 <kpreid> ]]] -- http://530nm330hz.livejournal.com/335910.html
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15:23:56 <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT PINBlock encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experienced people only , i pay alot of $ .
15:28:50 <sbp> Vortex: CAD only
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16:39:29 <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT PINBlock encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experienced people only , i pay alot of $ .
16:40:01 <sbp> Vortex: CAD only
16:40:58 <Vortex> ?
16:41:02 <sbp> CAD only!
16:41:22 <sbp> we don't take USD in here
16:41:24 <sbp> only CAD
16:41:30 <sbp> USD is pathetic money, it does not make sense
16:41:42 <sbp> but in Canada we say that CAD is second only to syrup
16:42:29 <sbp> so please don't offer to pay in mongrel currencies
16:42:31 <sbp> CAD only
16:50:39 <MacTed> .remind me
16:50:39 <phenny> MacTed: 09 Nov 11:33Z <mhausenblas> tell MacTed http://lod.openlinksw.com/void/Dataset still seems to 404 - any idea when this is fixed? Would really be awesome ;)
16:50:46 <MacTed> yeep.
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17:14:03 <dumnut> hi
17:17:33 <sbp> hey dumnut
17:19:36 <dumnut> hi sbp
17:19:41 <dumnut> how are you?
17:20:38 <sbp> cool thanks. how are you?
17:21:43 <dumnut> during my depressive episodes, i worry all the time that US will be invaded, i become homeless and get thrown in concentration camps
17:23:19 <sbp> invaded by whom?
17:23:33 <sbp> the US is probably the country least likely to be invaded in the world
17:23:53 <sbp> they're so twink it's unreal
17:25:10 <dumnut> i thought so too. but now we are in 2 wars, many men are in military
17:26:10 <dumnut> US is tops in weapons technology, but they are owned be private companies, and those guys would sell all our technologies to highest bidder ie. russia china iran
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17:29:30 <sbp> two wars?
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17:30:10 <dumnut> iraq afghanistan
17:30:15 <dumnut> soon iran
17:30:25 <sbp> oh, you don't class those as one single "War on Terror"? :-)
17:30:25 <dumnut> hi kpreid
17:31:07 <dumnut> i tried to join marines and army many times, but was sick plus now too old
17:31:20 <dumnut> plus i am a weakling
17:31:52 <dumnut> i am glad you are living in england where it is safe sbp
17:32:12 <sbp> nah, we'll get invaded by the French one of these days
17:32:35 <dumnut> french paople are too busy drinking wine ;)
17:32:54 <nslater> and shouting putan at people
17:33:05 <sbp> yeah but with global warming they won't be able to grow grapes
17:33:11 <dumnut> hi nslater
17:33:16 <sbp> so they'll stop drinking the wine and have an awesome hangover
17:33:29 <sbp> and decide to invade England because we beat them in the Six Nations
17:33:49 <nslater> the french are cool, they had kirstin dunst as a queen
17:34:01 <sbp> until they chopped off her head
17:34:07 <sbp> if I remember my history right
17:34:18 <nslater> yeah, well, all good things..
17:34:26 <nslater> apparently, she used to wear blue kneesocks too
17:34:32 <nslater> which is a doublewin by anybodies standards
17:34:42 <sbp> demonstrate this in some kind of visual proof
17:34:45 <nslater> sure
17:35:27 <nslater> http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Marie-Antoinette-kirsten-dunst-96139_900_550.jpg
17:35:32 <nslater> okay, white - but they have blue bows
17:35:55 <nslater> actual screencap
17:35:56 <nslater> http://www.martinbreton.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/marie-antoinette.png
17:36:20 <sbp> good enough. ah, science!
17:36:26 <nslater> :D
17:36:39 <nslater> http://themoldydoily.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/07/kirsten_dunst_marie_antoinette4.jpg
17:36:47 <nslater> aah, best 5 seconds of film history ever
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17:38:21 <nslater> good film in general
17:38:23 <nslater> also, note
17:38:24 <nslater> http://www.shinyshiny.tv/kirstin%20dunst%20macbook.jpg
17:38:32 <nslater> they had macbooks during the french revolution
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17:39:59 <nslater> note: one of the plot points of the film is that her husband wouldnt sleep with her because he could never get horny
17:40:07 <nslater> which is clearly unreleastic in the extreem
17:41:19 <procto> I am enjoying jason schwartzmann's current thing
17:41:24 <procto> which is the tv show Bored to Death
17:41:26 <sbp> maybe she has a big veiny, hairy cock behind that fan, all encrusted with the grime and filth of proletarian smegma. that would explain why the king was unable to get horny
17:41:56 <sbp> about as likely as the US getting invaded, though
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17:42:54 <nslater> you mean, smegma lumps the size of cottage cheese, all dotted around her labia majora like absurdly large salt grains?
17:43:18 <sbp> yeah. wipe that slit down man
17:43:22 <nslater> seasoned for your majesty's pleasure
17:44:09 <nslater> damn bitches gotta take their cunt pills
17:44:50 <sbp> snap
17:45:11 <nslater> .g "slit wipes"
17:45:12 <phenny> nslater: http://wapedia.mobi/en/Focal_plane_shutter
17:45:12 <Monty> thanks
17:45:20 <nslater> wapedia?
17:45:34 <nslater> wow, a WAP site. how cute
17:45:52 <nslater> sbp: did you know, the mobile web is going to be the Next Big Thing
17:45:56 <jsled> with an ad for Uncyclopedia?
17:46:17 <jsled> I've been meaning to do a comparison between wapedia and just normal wikipedia through my phone's browser.
17:46:26 * jsled tries for that article.
17:46:39 <nslater> ive only used the internet on a mobile phone once in my history of being alive
17:47:13 <nslater> and it was because i was in a car with John York from The Byrds, and I didn't believe he was famous
17:47:22 <nslater> so I used the phone to check out how he was
17:48:09 <nslater> he had come to york to check it out, because his last name was york
17:48:30 <nslater> he seemed very confused, and on edge
17:48:32 <jsled> hrm. the droid browser is immediately redirected to en.m.wikipedia.org, anyways. So, there's really 3 options.
17:48:41 <nslater> my friend found him in york train station, and invited him to a forrest party
17:48:52 <nslater> and thats when i met him, in the car on the way there
17:49:06 <nslater> he got freaked out very quickly, and left
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17:49:42 <sbp> that's an extremely strange story. I like it
17:49:59 <nslater> there are more details
17:50:10 <nslater> but i kinda told it in two lines, and then struggled to add them back in retrospectively
17:50:16 <nslater> i wish i had had the forsight to tell it properly
17:50:29 <sbp> tell me it again when I've all but forgotten it
17:50:40 <nslater> okay, ive made a note in yojimbo
17:50:54 <sbp> chuckle
17:50:56 <nslater> the only other thing i cba to add at this point is that when i realised who he was, i asked for an autograph
17:51:05 <nslater> and at first he seemed happy, then i couldnt find a pen
17:51:07 <sbp> did he give you one?
17:51:12 <sbp> "oh he gave me one alright"
17:51:18 <nslater> and by the time i had found one, he had obviously got paranoid, and refused
17:51:29 <nslater> not because he didnt want to give on, but because he claimed he wasnt famous
17:51:35 <nslater> and that he was "just noone"
17:51:49 <nslater> he seemed pretty mentally unstable tbh
17:52:07 <nslater> i mean, the guy had come to york alone with no plan, just to see what it looked like
17:52:09 <sbp> well yeah, Roger McGuinn is the only person people actually know
17:52:14 <nslater> and had then accepted a lift to a forrest party
17:52:21 <sbp> (coughanddavidcrosbycough)
17:53:27 <sbp> there are only two mentions of him in the Byrds Wikipedia page
17:53:31 <sbp> the first is that he joined the band
17:53:34 <sbp> the second is "By the time the album was released, John York had left the band because his girlfriend objected to his going out on the road."
17:53:39 <nslater> hehe
17:54:36 <sbp> I wouldn't bother getting his autograph
17:54:41 <sbp> but I would ask for bass tips
17:55:59 <nslater> hehe
17:56:43 <sbp> I'm no good on bass, don't know why
17:56:51 <sbp> finger strength perhaps
17:57:20 <sbp> I was going to buy one. probably should do
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18:09:10 <sbp> "Studio / Menstural Control / Mineral Paste"
18:09:23 <sbp> — an advert. I think it said Modelling Control in reality
18:09:29 <sbp> *-ru-
18:09:43 <sbp> now some woman is being raped by msn. interesting
18:09:53 <sbp> and now a ginger haired man is using a phone ona bus
18:10:01 <sbp> all of his friends are also redheads
18:10:09 <sbp> they're organising a Red Party
18:10:14 <sbp> and playing Simply Red
18:10:31 <sbp> perhaps this is a Catherine Tait sketch that spilled out into real life
18:10:58 <sbp> now a hot woman is cooking bubbles
18:11:11 <sbp> ads are much more interesting without sound
18:11:24 <sbp> now Holly Willoughby and another blonde are playing in the snow. I like this one
18:11:34 <sbp> they're strangling Holly
18:11:59 <sbp> ads over. that was an interesting cliffhanger
18:12:08 <sbp> what'll happen to Holly? find out next break!
18:12:12 <nslater> hehe
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18:17:10 <Monty> howdy, dumnut
18:17:47 <dumnut> what do you think Monty?
18:17:50 <Monty> wow, a doc but then i couldnt find /path/to/dbs/ | wc -l
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18:53:19 <Monty> hi dumnut, how ya doing?
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19:32:20 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's danja_!
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20:16:42 <Monty> welcome, [bjoern]
20:17:05 <[bjoern]> Good evening Monty.
20:17:08 <Monty> and shouting putan at least likely to spam the source enough apparently.
20:19:31 <[bjoern]> "A law that demands consent to internet cookies has been approved and will be in force across the EU within 18 months" - http://www.out-law.com/default.aspx?page=10510
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20:49:36 <BigJibby> that's retarded
20:50:33 <BigJibby> 'An exception exists where the cookie is "strictly necessary" for the provision of a service "explicitly requested" by the user'
21:20:47 <BigJibby> http://doyouwantacookie.info/
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22:37:28 <Monty> howdy, [bjoern]
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