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04:07:21 <Monty> hi MoiraA, how ya doing?
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09:28:22 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's [bjoern]!
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14:55:40 <Monty> it's monkinetic!
14:58:10 <[bjoern]> They fixed a bug only one and a half years after I raised it https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19427 !
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15:16:05 <sbp> a record!
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16:55:28 <tommorris> urgh. the illogic of Australian Shooter magazine burns.
16:55:50 <[bjoern]> "It isn't a subject we like to revisit." ~ Reuters on their Second Life presence.
16:55:51 <tommorris> 160,000 isn't the number of active combat troops in Iraq
16:55:51 <Monty> already there, and get updated. when we could have time soon.
17:05:35 <[bjoern]> "Second Life is ridiculous. Its probably used to be awesome or something when there were only 1000 people using it, but when the general public got a hold of it it became some kind of demonic three dimensional rendition of MySpace with the intelligence level of Youtube comments."
17:07:53 <tommorris> with more furries
17:08:22 <tommorris> I remember once visiting the furry island. I got booted "because you look like a human"
17:08:26 <tommorris> Yeah, sorry about that.
17:09:36 <clsn> I occasionally wear an avatar that looks like featureless wooden sphere.
17:09:55 <clsn> Or even more fun, a dodecahedron (with different smiley expressions on each face, à la The Phantom Tollbooth)
17:10:07 <[bjoern]> Looking like a three dimensional pixel would be awesome.
17:10:23 <tommorris> I have giant dinosaur 'clothes' someone gave me
17:10:44 <clsn> You can make yourself invisible, though your nametag still floats above you. I think there are ways to hide that too. But there are side-effects of being invisible.
17:11:09 <clsn> Other people turn invisible when viewed through you, and some other objects too... so there are ways to tell you're there.
17:11:16 <tommorris> A friend of mine organised a conference pre-party in Second Life. I turned up in a three-piece suit, then turned into a dinosaur on the dance floor.
17:11:34 <tommorris> A pretty neat party trick, I'm sure you'll agree.
17:11:54 <[bjoern]> I would not be so sure.
17:12:14 <tommorris> It would be if it was real.
17:12:24 <clsn> Where's the funniest SL avatar I saw for sale... I just found it agfain yesterday...
17:12:50 <clsn> https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=174659
17:12:59 <clsn> Read the description too. :)
17:14:48 <tommorris> That's awesome.
17:15:08 <clsn> It predates sculpties; it must be all normal prims. :)
17:15:38 <[bjoern]> """We weren't able to set a cookie in your browser. Until we can, this site wont work, properly. If you have cookies disabled, enable them. If you are only accepting cookies from "the site I visit" (Opera users):
17:15:38 <[bjoern]> either change this to "Accept cookies" (Tools, Preferences, Advanced, Cookies) or disable automatic redirection (Tools, Preferences, Advanced, Network). Press browser's "back" button to retry."""
17:15:46 <[bjoern]> of course the back button is grayed out
17:16:53 <clsn> Did it open a new tab/window on you whilst you weren't watching, so you don't have a history? That sometimes happens to me.\
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17:17:40 <[bjoern]> I always open new things in new windows.
17:17:55 <[bjoern]> Also, loading Googlezilla was so not worth it.
17:18:14 <[bjoern]> I did enjoy the gazillions of redirects and stuffs that were going on during load.
17:18:33 <clsn> Those're always fun.
17:19:46 <[bjoern]> "Tried it - just a vacant boring wasteland with a crappy interface. Even the hookers were uninspiring. The text MUDs I used to play had more users, more interesting content and were easier to use."
17:20:30 <clsn> That's the thing... When you get to know people, you'd rather be interacting with them on text MUD anyway for the most part.
17:20:58 <clsn> I mean, most interaction is by text. Still, there sometimes is something fun about having a semi-real-looking interface, and programming cool gizmos.
17:21:24 <tommorris> "Furry Objectivists" - http://community.livejournal.com/furjectivists/
17:21:51 <clsn> SL is like rule34. If you can imagine it, it's there somewhere.
17:22:15 <clsn> I have at one point or another, been to the lairs of some really bizarre groups...
17:26:15 <tommorris> I remember Harvard Law School were doing lectures in there at one point.
17:26:40 <jessica> wait, excuse me?
17:26:40 <phenny> jessica: 09 Nov 11:25Z <xover> tell jessica the comments are essentially correct. The -gate is indefinite, -gata and -gaten are definite; the latter two are a bokmål vs. nynorsk vs. dialect difference; and they've left out suffixes like -vei (road vs. street).
17:26:48 <[bjoern]> We never excuse you.
17:26:54 <jessica> secondlife is like rule 34?
17:26:55 <jessica> no.
17:27:14 <jessica> Look, kids, gather around, Grandma's turn to talk. Get 'er some more schnapps.
17:27:23 <jessica> (Oma, I suppose.)
17:27:24 <[bjoern]> Actually I was planning to.
17:27:27 <tommorris> This was along with trying to teach lawyers how to programme so they would understand what exactly is going on when Internet regulation is actually regulating
17:27:58 <jessica> I participated in the very first virtual world attempt in graphics, which was CompuServe's WorldsAway.
17:28:25 <jessica> This was before the concept of "things should be free for users" so you paid a surcharge.
17:28:43 <jessica> Also, at the time, you didn't get to have your own buildings to torture Sims in.
17:29:08 <tommorris> Second Life isn't free.
17:29:21 <jessica> Hell, Sim City consisted of stamping gigantic blocks onto strangely formed terrain and then having your people complain about traffic before you put in a road.
17:29:45 <tommorris> They charge for property and IIRC take a tax on transactions
17:29:59 * tommorris was playing Sim City 2000 the other day
17:30:03 <jessica> between the lack of secret buildings and the fact that people were paying a significant fee to play, they quit fairly frequently.
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17:30:36 <jessica> now, as we all know, secondlife is a zombie post-apocalyptic universe, much like Las Vegas was in The Stand by Stephen King, specifically the miniseries.
17:30:55 <[bjoern]> So in conclusion you are saying there are things where there is porn of that are not in second life.
17:30:57 <clsn> You can get a free account on it though, tommorris.
17:31:22 <jessica> not concluding yet. i come from the same state as john kerry.
17:31:22 <dmiles> i use OpenSim.. iut allows unlimited buidling and free accts
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17:31:55 <dmiles> also witj opensim as a secondlife server replacement.. i can experment with semweb stuff
17:32:09 <clsn> SL hasn't been around as long as the web; maybe it's still catching up on porn. Still, when you think of Weird Shit™ you can usually find some representatives thereof on SL.
17:32:09 <jessica> now, like all virtual worlds, it developed its very own subculture, with people going online to talk to their friends, who were all advanced Turing Tests anyway.
17:32:45 <jessica> for instance, on World of Warcraft, you can find people attempting to arrange a 20-minute raid for three hours, at least 10% of whom don't share a common language.
17:33:05 <dmiles> with OpenSim i have 11 differnt regions i host at home all for free.. unlimited prims and programming languages
17:33:13 <jessica> in secondlife, people sign up, look around, build a little house and forget to ever come back.
17:33:22 <jessica> hence the post-apocalyptic zombie universe.
17:33:32 <jessica> Which is where the fur community comes in.
17:34:02 <dmiles> the furs are invading OSGrid
17:34:03 <tommorris> yup, Final Fantasy XI has just that - it has a strange thing so you can communicate using a pre-defined vocabulary - http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Auto-Translator
17:34:17 <dmiles> (OSGrid is the opensim SL grid)
17:34:26 <jessica> and some innocent secondlife newbie starts walking down a virtual street and sees some stuff that looks like more explicit clips from the later Leisure Suit Larry games (R.I.P. Sierra) and is horrified.
17:34:40 <tommorris> So you end up having conversations like "[Help please][healing required][Location]"
17:34:44 <jessica> and that's how we hear about people waving enormous neon dildoes at each other.
17:35:01 <tommorris> Leisure Suit Larry was awesome
17:35:18 <jessica> I loved the VGA remake in the early 1990s.
17:35:56 <jessica> it's not as if, when wandering around as a newb with no friends in secondlife, you're going to find someone NORMAL.
17:36:05 <[bjoern]> I only played the ones Al Lowe was involved with
17:36:20 <[bjoern]> .wik Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust
17:36:26 <jessica> If you're lucky, you're going to get a version of the guy in a hat from XKCD.
17:36:30 <[bjoern]> appears to be the latest
17:36:31 <jessica> wise choice, bjoern.
17:36:36 <phenny> "Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust is a video game published by Codemasters for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Microsoft Windows and Mobile phone which was released on 27 March, 2009[1]| as the newest title in the Leisure Suit Larry series." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Suit_Larry:_Box_Office_Bust
17:36:43 <clsn> I've met a small number of interesting people on SL.
17:36:51 <jessica> yes, but it takes a while.
17:36:56 <clsn> Perhaps.
17:36:58 <jessica> also, as i recall, you're a german.
17:37:07 <jessica> ja?
17:37:08 <clsn> (come to think of it, I *am* a small number of interesting people on SL)
17:37:18 <clsn> No, I'm American. I couldn't speak German worth shit.
17:37:18 <tommorris> Just had someone calling me to tell me that "the software is not working".
17:37:20 <[bjoern]> I think I tried VI again not too long ago, but there was an issue with dosbox or something.
17:37:26 <jessica> really?
17:37:28 <jessica> huh.
17:37:30 <jessica> anyway.
17:37:32 <clsn> I live in New Jersey, just about my whole life.
17:37:41 <[bjoern]> Ich halte das fuer eine uebertriebene Darstellung.
17:38:17 <jessica> I find that Germans, in a constant attempt to improve their English, tend to put up with more shite online than Anglophones.
17:38:39 <jessica> then, clsn ...
17:38:41 <jessica> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-july-28-2009/hey--c-mon-that-s-not----why-would-you----whoa-
17:38:44 <jessica> .title
17:39:03 <clsn> I generally put up with a lot of shite, period, because I'm a spineless doormat.
17:39:15 <phenny> jessica: Video: Hey, C'Mon That's Not... Why Would You... Whoa! | The Daily Show | Comedy Central
17:39:31 <[bjoern]> English is so far removed from a reasonable language that we don't have a hard time ignoring most of it, perhaps.
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17:40:40 * tommorris was told yesterday on IRC that the Internet police had been called on him.
17:41:04 <clsn> And once again comedy central sans sound... and once again looks like it's going to crash my browser...
17:41:09 <jessica> "Stunning, even by Jersey standards!" "BASTARDO!!!"
17:41:21 <jessica> You run Linux, don't you?
17:41:27 <clsn> Yes...
17:41:40 <tommorris> so, is NJ really as corrupt as the news media makes it sound? ;)
17:41:45 <jessica> of course.
17:41:54 <jessica> although it's nothing compared to Illinois.
17:42:13 <jessica> and my husband grew up in Illinois.
17:42:17 <jessica> outside of Chicago.
17:42:44 <clsn> Mmm... I dunno. Some of it is. My father used to describe a certain city in NJ as "...every four years they arrest their government and elect a new one."
17:42:51 <tommorris> it's really a shame. UK politics used to be about middle-aged politicians getting into sleazy sexual situations while US politics was about politicians having their noses in the financial trough.
17:42:55 <tommorris> now it's the other way around.
17:42:56 <clsn> (he's a lawyer, he kept up on such things)
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17:43:32 <[bjoern]> the part after BASTARDO does not appear to be worth watching.
17:43:36 <jessica> He graduated high school a year before Daley destroyed Meigs Field in the middle of the night in defiance of the entire rest of the government.
17:43:43 <tommorris> We haven't had a good old-fashioned autoerotic asphyxiation death in the British parliament for many years.
17:44:10 <jessica> and he didn't actually see anything weird or wrong with this.
17:44:32 <tommorris> Just lots of people claiming their chocolate biscuits and moat cleaning on expenses.
17:44:48 <jessica> tommorris: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-20-2009/scamalot
17:45:20 <jessica> Failing my 12-year-old daughter, I have yet to get an American native who understands what the hell that is about.
17:45:40 <tommorris> yes, I remember seeing the Daily Show clip after the expenses scandal
17:46:09 <jessica> but back to Meigs Field? Chris didn't understand that in the rest of the country, you generally don't do that.
17:46:22 <jessica> and as I came from New Hampshire, he had a huge problem adjusting.
17:46:38 <jessica> he was trying to advocate for open source to be used in the state government.
17:46:48 <tommorris> the best thing is that it was all split on party lines: all the conservatives had ridiculous stuff like moat-cleaning and duck houses while the liberal democrats claimed their biscuits. class lines.
17:47:17 <jessica> so about ten or fifteen open source geeks go up to testify. the committee nods and agrees, "yeah, free software sounds good. let's do a fact-finding mission."
17:47:17 <Monty> not get generated on it in the state government.
17:47:28 <jessica> my chicagoan husband did not understand where he was.
17:47:40 <jessica> the fact-finding mission was to go find Bob in I.T.
17:48:02 <tommorris> a "fact-finding mission" sounds like a chance to fly off and meet Richard Stallman and get the shit scared out of you rather than logging onto the Debian and OpenOffice websites
17:48:18 <jessica> "Yeah, but I don't know anything about OpenOffice, and I'm the only person here for all 600-odd of you." "Right."
17:48:19 <Monty> Also, at one end, I promise ;)
17:48:26 <jessica> Motion tabled forever.
17:48:57 <jessica> Chris didn't really get any of this, even after I explained to him that my father was a state rep as a full-time job and paid $50 per year.
17:49:12 <jessica> btw, crs met RMS on the street.
17:49:22 <clsn> OK, back from watching the video.
17:49:39 <jessica> he works near MIT and was walking to Mary Chung's with his boss, who suddenly went respectfully silent.
17:49:50 <tommorris> I remember meeting RMS. He didn't attempt to steal my Macintosh and install gNewSense on it, for which I'm very grateful.
17:49:50 <Monty> but it to shoot myself in principle code things where I purged the state as we could have them on 27 March, 2009[1]| as i come back.
17:50:25 <jsled> RMS.
17:50:32 <jessica> "did you know that was ... RMS?" crs looked back and said, um, the guy in the purple polyester outfit with the dreadlocks in his beard? I thought he was just a hobo."
17:51:04 <clsn> Yeah, maybe a little unfair to NJ. It's actually got a lot of stuff one wouldn't expect from such a small and densely-populated state. OTOH, most of its larger city governments probably are about as corrupt as reputation would have it
17:51:06 <jsled> hmm. what's monty's trigger?
17:51:10 <Monty> And once again looks like Las Vegas was walking down a cookie and sees some fixes.
17:51:12 <jsled> what's monty's safe word?
17:51:12 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
17:51:17 <tommorris> Next time I'll take my Debian netbook, so I don't feel like the social outcast in the room.
17:51:18 <jsled> :p
17:51:56 <tommorris> Monty, are philosophers all paedophiles?
17:51:57 <Monty> electric lettuce, apparently.
17:51:58 <jessica> tommorris: crs has shown up with his mac stuff. as long as he remembers to describe all projects as "free", he's okay.
17:52:14 <jessica> he said "open" once and got heckled by RMS.
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17:52:29 <tommorris> I'll just say I'm hacking on MacVim, a free software project.
17:52:41 <jessica> I really want to talk to RMS as an intervention type thing.
17:52:41 <tommorris> Then it'll be a choice between "ah cool, free software" and "Vim = heretic!"
17:52:43 <[bjoern]> rms could star in a monty python movie.
17:52:43 <Monty> oh, hm.
17:53:04 <jessica> "Dude. First, you're feuding with ESR, which is hilarious enough even before we consider your hygiene issues."
17:53:57 <jessica> "Secondly, an enormous number of people are giving their code away. Why are you bitching?"
17:54:00 <jessica> "It's not free code!"
17:54:27 <jessica> "Yeah, and you know what? That vegetarian food you ate at Mary Chung's wasn't cat-broth-free either! Jesus, man!"
17:55:42 <tommorris> The craziness over Mono seems to be an example of FSF ridiculouness gone too far
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17:58:00 <jessica> I just don't get it, tommorris. I really don't. Which is why I would never be hired by the FSF.
17:59:08 <[bjoern]> Wouldn't they hire you for your looks?
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18:04:16 <jessica> Bjoern?
18:04:35 <[bjoern]> He does not frequent this channel, I believe.
18:04:39 <jessica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpallan/3710312868/
18:04:47 <[bjoern]> I would ban him, if so, I think.
18:08:08 * tommorris likes Mono despite the default anti-MSFT prejudice all Mac and Linux users are supposed to have
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20:32:12 <[bjoern]> .wik Capital ß
20:32:27 <phenny> "Capital sharp s (ẞ) is the contestable majuscule of ß." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_ß
20:32:53 <sbp> ẞWHACK
20:33:20 <sbp> <jessica> "Dude. First, you're feuding with ESR, which is hilarious enough even before we consider your hygiene issues."
20:33:22 <sbp> lols
20:33:22 <[bjoern]> Yeah I was thinking that.
20:33:46 <sbp> how's your Autumn going, Cap'n [b]?
20:34:04 <sbp> apparently we have an overabundance of water in parts of the United Whatsit
20:34:12 <[bjoern]> OH JUST HOW MIGHT MIGHT COLD WINDY WEATHER GO FOR ME.
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20:34:47 <sbp> I would guess it would depress and harass you in unmistakably hilarious ways
20:35:04 <sbp> also, the cold kills off all the animals you would otherwise eat
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20:35:32 <[bjoern]> Hmm. I am not really seeing that.
20:35:49 <sbp> the water is washing our bridges away
20:36:20 <sbp> I'm watching a programme about rooks
20:36:30 <sbp> they have big beaks
20:37:12 <[bjoern]> If you'd connect all cctvs to teh intarwebs you could offer live coverage of bridge washing.
20:37:42 <sbp> the government are too preoccupied by failing to get Tony Blair in the chair right now
20:38:23 <[bjoern]> Curious, I thougt this was Brown's brilliant plan?
20:38:28 <sbp> for some reason, none of the other European countries WANTED an arch war criminal as a president. not entirely sure why, many of them have chosen this in the past
20:38:40 <sbp> someone asked him if it was a big personal failure for him
20:38:46 <sbp> and he actually had a little lols at the journalist
20:38:51 <sbp> it was quite funny
20:39:20 <[bjoern]> fun fact: #wikipedia-de has a wikipedia bot. It's awesome, if you type [[name]] it will give you a link http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/name
20:39:38 <[bjoern]> no excerpt or anything
20:39:39 <sbp> wow that's brilliant
20:39:51 <sbp> must have taken a lot of hard work
20:40:10 <sbp> mountain bunnies have shorter ears to aid heat conservation
20:40:21 <sbp> okay, arctic hares. same thing
20:40:29 <[bjoern]> Especially bunny-dahut cross breeds.
20:40:43 <sbp> buhut? danny?
20:40:55 <sbp> actually, bunnut wouldn't be too bad
20:41:02 <[bjoern]> puts danja in a new perspective.
20:41:07 <sbp> yeah
20:41:15 <deltab> sbp: that's a cross between a bun and a doughnut
20:41:26 <[bjoern]> I wonder what, then, Bahamut would be.
20:41:39 <sbp> nah that would be a boughnut. or a doughnuun
20:42:21 <sbp> [bjoern]: smut from the Bahamas
20:42:52 <[bjoern]> .leo Mut
20:43:09 <phenny> der Mut = audacity, boldness, bravery, courage, courageousness
20:43:09 <phenny> der Mut kein Plural = cojones pl. Spanish (vulg.)
20:43:10 <phenny> den Mut bewahren = to bear against misfortune
20:43:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Mut
20:43:25 <[bjoern]> Who are you giving the trout treatment for the phenny slowness btw?
20:43:40 <sbp> my isp, even though they're not involved in any way
20:43:50 <sbp> ooh, ptarmigan
20:43:54 <[bjoern]> Excellent.
20:44:24 <sbp> I was hoping: der Mut = a prostitute's public hair clipping tools
20:44:32 <sbp> but it didn't happen
20:44:42 <deltab> Lady Thatcher
20:44:54 <[bjoern]> No that's not what we call the tools.
20:44:56 <sbp> I... pardon?
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20:45:15 <sbp> what's this Anchakor_ person then?
20:45:35 <[bjoern]> I was writing up a strange welcome message before I saw the quittation.
20:45:41 <sbp> yeah, same
20:45:42 <deltab> half person, half error message
20:45:46 <sbp> hehe
20:46:07 <[bjoern]> .wik Möter
20:46:50 <sbp> Swhack is like a klein bottle of ignorance
20:46:53 <phenny> "Wermland is the second album by Detektivbyrån released on the bands own label Danarkia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wermland_(album)
20:46:57 <[bjoern]> Oh come on, german names for spaceball characters surely should have their own article?
20:46:58 <sbp> was waiting for phenny, but gave up
20:47:07 <[bjoern]> I had more stamina.
20:47:12 <sbp> oh man, space ball characters
20:47:48 <sbp> if you take a stoat from the south of England to the north of Scotland, in the winter, it won't turn white
20:47:55 <sbp> just in case you have any big ideas
20:48:04 <[bjoern]> What if you unboil it?
20:48:18 <sbp> with an unboiling device?
20:48:39 <sbp> was das auf Deutsch wait for the verb ist?
20:48:41 <[bjoern]> Well let's see
20:48:46 <[bjoern]> .g unboil
20:49:02 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/foodmonthly/futureoffood/story/0,,1969723,00.html
20:49:05 <[bjoern]> .title
20:49:19 <[bjoern]> I can't make out your question I am afraid Mr P.
20:49:22 <sbp> all language should be broken German with grammatical comments in English
20:49:30 <sbp> de(unboiling device)
20:49:32 <[bjoern]> Not entirely untrue.
20:49:36 <phenny> [bjoern]: The man who unboiled an egg | Compare and buy | The Observer
20:49:44 <[bjoern]> I am not sure, I'll make something up
20:49:48 <sbp> disturbing category
20:50:00 <sbp> does one buy the man, or the egg?
20:50:12 <[bjoern]> First attempt yields Entkochungsmaschine
20:50:23 <[bjoern]> more strictly ...gerät
20:50:31 <sbp> I like it, though entkochung looks like duck-cooking
20:50:46 <[bjoern]> the article starts rappy, "He can measure the pressure"
20:50:59 <sbp> bet it doesn't end so rappy
20:51:17 <[bjoern]> yeah, ent- is ~ de-, whereas Ente ~ duck
20:51:30 <sbp> so duck is de-e?
20:51:41 <[bjoern]> kinda
20:51:48 <[bjoern]> it uses unrappy words like produce
20:52:04 <sbp> produce rhymes with juice and puce
20:52:30 <[bjoern]> HE PUT THE JUICE IN THE PUCE TO MAKE IT PRODUCE
20:52:31 <sbp> a golden eagle is being buzzed by a buzzard
20:52:40 <[bjoern]> okay not so unrappy then
20:53:34 <[bjoern]> I wonder, is that an euphemism for reproduction through anal sex?
20:53:55 <sbp> what genus of animal does that?
20:54:04 <sbp> (the Frenchman doesn't count)
20:54:31 <[bjoern]> Would cloacae count?
20:54:41 <sbp> Swhack: from peroclastic merobloticism to anal reproduction in three simple steps
20:54:53 <sbp> I'd ask phenny, but she'll have to think about it
20:54:58 <sbp> .wik Cloacae
20:54:59 <[bjoern]> If you say yes we might be full circle back to ducks.
20:55:12 <sbp> the answer pends
20:55:14 <phenny> "In zoological anatomy, a cloaca is the posterior opening that serves as the only such opening for the intestinal, reproductive and urinary tracts of certain animal species." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloacae
20:55:34 <sbp> oh right, the omnisexual orifice
20:55:45 <sbp> yeah, I'd say it does
20:56:23 <sbp> cloacae sex is so cute. it's like kissing with your waste pipe
20:56:42 <[bjoern]> Yeah, i'll pretend you did not say that.
20:56:47 <sbp> yeah
20:57:01 <sbp> more rooks
20:57:20 <[bjoern]> .leo rook
20:57:32 <sbp> they sound a lot like magpies when they're roosting
20:57:37 <phenny> rook = der Betrüger, die Krähe, die Saatkrähe, der Turm (Schach)
20:57:38 <phenny> to rook = betrügen | betrog, betrogen |
20:57:39 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=rook
20:57:41 <[bjoern]> broad semantics there.
20:57:55 <sbp> yeah, Krähe being a clear Crow cognate
20:58:07 <sbp> .leo Saat
20:58:10 <[bjoern]> .leo Betrüger
20:58:23 <phenny> die Saat = crop, seed, sowing
20:58:24 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Saat
20:58:26 <phenny> der Betrüger = beguiler, blackleg, cozener, crook - criminal (coll.), defrauder
20:58:27 <phenny> der Betrüger | die Betrügerin = cheat, deceiver, fraud - person, fraudster, scammer
20:58:28 <phenny> Betrüger raus! = cheats out! (coll.)
20:58:29 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Betr%C3%BCger
20:58:54 <sbp> Cropcrow?
20:59:08 <[bjoern]> kinda
20:59:23 <sbp> crested tits
20:59:38 <sbp> they need standing stumps of rotting dead wood
21:00:01 <[bjoern]> .leo Holzmedien
21:00:09 <[bjoern]> .leo Holzmedium
21:00:17 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Holzmedien
21:00:25 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Holzmedium
21:00:30 <sbp> BZZT
21:07:27 <sbp> yay, pine martin
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21:47:09 <[bjoern]> "Panoramix"? you britpeople are so mad.
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22:07:14 <[bjoern]> .gc +Metamensch
22:07:30 <phenny> +Metamensch: 120
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