Swhack! 24 December 2009
00:12:52 <[bjoern]> possible, I only went there to check if a proper user interface materialized. gimp-ui that is.
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00:31:02 <Monty> howdy, danja_
00:31:20 <danja_> becca is proxying for me
00:31:25 <danja_> please be polite
00:32:48 <danja_> u ppl aint talking?
00:35:03 <nslater> yo danja_
00:37:39 <danja_> yo
00:38:08 <danja_> hows u?
00:39:36 <danja_> ?
00:44:43 <nslater> cool thanks
00:44:50 <nslater> how about you? are you ready for christmas? :)
00:45:32 <nslater> i thought i could avoid the usual troubles by buying everything online
00:45:40 <nslater> but then the royal mail lost some of my stuff!
00:47:59 <danja_> yep i got all my presents done but its really cold here in england lol
00:49:32 <nslater> you're not kidding! it's been snowing non-stop for days now
00:50:51 <danja_> its stopped snowing here but yesterday it was awful and snowy. So its all slushy here now and very cold outside
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00:51:18 <nslater> it's quite weird in york, the snow is really powdery
00:51:24 <nslater> it's like it's actually just lots of salt
00:51:33 <nslater> like, watery salt, i guess
00:51:35 <nslater> very strange
00:51:55 <danja_> never been to new york whats it like? and yeah alot of salt here aswell and half the shops have water everywhere lol
00:52:13 <nsh> WAHT IS SANOW?
00:52:20 <nsh> uh, hello, that is
00:52:39 <nsh> just had to look up the origins of the names "harry" and "hermione" in the harry potter books
00:52:48 <nslater> nope, not new york - just plain ol' york
00:52:55 <danja_> never read harry potter seen the films tho
00:52:56 <nsh> because finngirl suggested they might be a reference to Steppenwolf
00:53:12 <danja_> ah ol york
00:53:12 <nsh> which was a silly conjecture
00:53:19 <nslater> but what i mean is that the snow is "like" salk
00:53:20 <nsh> although hermione is apparently from shakespeare
00:53:21 <nslater> erm, salt
00:53:24 <nslater> it's really powdery
00:54:12 <danja_> Lol i wish it wasnt so cold here, snow does make it feel like christmas but its to cold lol
00:54:18 <danja_> what you doing for christmas?
00:54:21 <nslater> imagine someone pouring 2 inches of moist salt on the pavements, that's what it's like. very surreal
00:54:22 <nsh> have either of you seen The Third Man?
00:54:31 <nslater> nope
00:54:34 <danja_> Nope never seen the Third Man
00:54:42 <nslater> im having two christmases, one each with each parent
00:54:49 <nsh> .wik The Third Man
00:54:49 <phenny> "The Third Man is a 1949 British film noir directed by Carol Reed and starring Joseph Cotten, Alida Valli, Orson Welles, and Trevor Howard." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Man
00:54:52 <nsh> looks really good
00:55:16 <danja_> Ah right, im having christmas at grandmas and grandpas then auntie and uncle unless i go to pub with mates
00:55:54 <nslater> well, its a tradition for me and my friend chris to spend christmas night finding a pub that is open
00:56:06 <nslater> so, we'll see how that goes
00:56:18 <danja_> ah never gone to pub on xmas or new year always done it with family but im 19 now
00:56:52 <nslater> you're…….. 19? what?
00:57:05 <nsh> you're not talking to danja, i believe
00:57:05 <danja_> lol im on dannys laptop he let me use it
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00:57:27 <nsh> good luck trying to steal our moon
00:57:31 <nsh> CANNOT HAVE
00:57:37 <nslater> oh, who am i talking to?
00:57:55 <nsh> watch this video about what-if-the-earth-had-rings: http://www.squidzone.ca/the_squid_zone/2009/12/on-the-5th-day-of-christmas-the-universe-gave-to-earth.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fdcowan38%2Fthe_squid_zone+(The+Squid+Zone)&utm_content=Google+Reader
00:57:59 <nslater> old
00:58:02 <danja_> Becky alison broadys daughter who danny is staying with
00:58:20 <nslater> should there be a comma after the second word?
00:58:21 <nsh> it's like CLUEDO
00:58:39 * nsh grabs the candlestick, for protection...
00:58:43 <nslater> or are you Becky Alison Broady's daughter?
00:59:12 <nslater> nsh, i used to know a guy who always carried some rope with him
00:59:26 <nslater> i asked him once, why he did this
00:59:32 * danja_ (real one) say's behave, the poor girls got an italian keyboard in front of her
00:59:45 <nslater> and he responded that rope can be useful in all sorts of situations
00:59:52 <nslater> tho, as far as i know, he only used it once
00:59:56 <nslater> and i happened to be with him]
01:00:01 <nslater> and it was a lifesaver
01:00:17 <nslater> we were stuck at a farmhouse in the middle of the countryside
01:00:22 <nslater> and we needed to get to the main village
01:00:33 <nslater> but the only transport was an old Ford Prefect sitting in the driver
01:00:34 <danja_> Talking about rope? lol
01:00:36 <nslater> erm, drive
01:00:56 <nslater> but, apart from being over 300 years old, the drivers door didn't actually have a latch to stay closed
01:00:57 <danja_> ah lol
01:01:09 <nslater> so he wound down the windows, and tied it closed with his rope
01:01:12 <nslater> and we drove into town
01:01:20 <danja_> what music do you like?
01:01:21 <nslater> scariest car journey of my life
01:01:45 <nslater> danja aka becky, anything which isn't totally shit
01:01:47 <nslater> how about you?
01:01:49 <nslater> i could list some stuff if you like
01:02:15 <danja_> I like nickelback, 3 doors down, 30 seconds to mars, and the clubland shit
01:02:30 <nslater> nickelback? lol...
01:02:36 <danja_> yep lol
01:02:53 <nslater> are you not put of by the front man being literally the uglyest person to have ever lived?
01:03:00 <nslater> also, what do you mean by clubland shit
01:03:00 <Monty> potty mouth!
01:03:19 <danja_> the clubland music you listen to in clubs and bars that you get up and dance 2 lol
01:03:30 <nslater> oh right, id not seen it be called clubland before
01:03:44 <danja_> ah lol well clubland or dance music
01:04:51 <danja_> so....
01:08:06 <danja_> your all silent psh :p
01:08:12 <nslater> sorry
01:08:14 <nslater> i was typing...
01:08:48 <nslater> right, well - i guess if i was to list some randomly chosen genres i like… classical, trance, dance, d&b, jungle, breakbeat, house, funky house, latin house, chillout, ambient, lounge, the bristol sound, hip-hop, rap, gangster rap, alternative hip-hop, reggae, roots reggae, dub reggae, dancehall, latin american, cuban, beat, grunge, punk rock, rock, alternative rock, metal, nu metal, britpop, folk, blues, country, jazz (im too new to jazz to break it into
01:09:01 <nslater> man, im sure im missing stuff...
01:10:13 <nslater> sorry, i was snipped - should have ended with "(im too new to jazz to break it into the bits i like...)"
01:10:30 <danja_> wow thatś alot of music
01:11:34 <nslater> i also like some weird shit like native american music… and buddhist chanting, etc. heh
01:11:47 <nslater> anyway, i usually find its quicker to say what i dont like. hard house and pop.
01:12:02 <danja_> lol never heard of that stuff :p and yeah it is easier to say that lol
01:12:09 <danja_> how olds you anyway?
01:12:16 <nslater> 26 :(
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01:13:05 <danja_> ah right cool
01:13:25 <nslater> ooh ooh… i forgot traditional turkish music!
01:13:41 <danja_> uh turkish music? lol
01:13:44 <nslater> well, turkish/persian
01:13:54 <nslater> yeah, i listen to this radio station a lot:
01:13:54 <danja_> you have facebook?
01:13:54 <nslater> http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html
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01:14:01 <nslater> should give you a good idea of what i mean
01:14:07 <nslater> yeps!
01:14:17 <nslater> http://www.facebook.com/noah.slater
01:14:23 <danja_> kk i will try it out and add me marymoocow23@hotmail.com
01:14:46 <nslater> added
01:15:00 <danja_> kk
01:15:06 <nslater> nsh, you should check out http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html by the way
01:15:48 <nslater> as we're on music, ive spent the whole night listening to johnny cash :D
01:15:50 <nslater> .o lastfm
01:15:53 <phenny> Now playing Ballad Of A Teenage Queen (mono) by Johnny Cash - http://www.last.fm/music/+noredirect/Johnny+Cash/_/Ballad+Of+A+Teenage+Queen+%28mono%29
01:16:06 <[bjoern]> What's with all the chatter.
01:16:25 <danja_> lol its better than silence :p
01:16:29 <nslater> ayeup
01:17:08 * [bjoern] in lieu with the hardware failure, he restored his music collection the other day, and was disappointed to find a mere 19 000 tracks
01:17:15 <danja_> yeah i hate silence cause ye sat their bored lol
01:17:31 <nslater> what kinda dance do you like danja_?
01:17:55 * [bjoern] ... may the answer involve alien love slaves?
01:18:16 <danja_> Um i have bad memory and its all on spotify but i will look tommrow and send on fb i like any dance music really
01:20:00 <nslater> you dont have a favourite type of dance? like trance, house, or whatever?
01:20:42 <danja_> nope i dont since i dont listen to it to much i only listen to nickelback, beyonce, 3 doors down, spam sparro toploader and other crap atm lol
01:21:41 <[bjoern]> .wik Hans Zimmer
01:21:41 <phenny> "Hans Florian Zimmer (born September 12, 1957) is a German film score composer and music producer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Zimmer
01:21:59 * [bjoern] 's listening to him atm apparently
01:23:02 <danja_> so...
01:23:19 <nslater> hehe, okay
01:24:07 <danja_> were the only people talking lol
01:24:34 <[bjoern]> Sadly of late that's rather normal in swhackspace.
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01:24:56 <danja_> swackspace?
01:25:24 <[bjoern]> It's what contains the swhackverse, of which you are currently a part of.
01:25:36 <danja_> oh lol
01:25:53 <danja_> so nslater what you up2 atm?
01:27:31 <danja_> ?
01:27:49 <[bjoern]> .o twitter nslater
01:27:49 <phenny> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
01:27:52 <nslater> sorry
01:27:57 <danja_> off in a min since were all off to bed and its late lol and wb slater
01:27:59 <[bjoern]> He's coding web pages apparently.
01:28:00 <nslater> im working on a project in another window
01:28:05 <danja_> ah lol
01:28:30 <nslater> what am i up to? hmm, coding a webapp
01:28:35 <nslater> and listening to johnny cash
01:28:41 <nslater> and drinking some french beer
01:28:44 <nslater> .o lastfm
01:28:45 <phenny> Now playing Five Feet High And Rising by Johnny Cash from the album The Legend - http://www.last.fm/music/Johnny+Cash/_/Five+Feet+High+And+Rising
01:28:47 <[bjoern]> hmm beer...
01:28:54 <danja_> lol im listening to dan and mum talk and drinking red wine :p
01:28:55 <nslater> .wik desperados
01:28:55 <phenny> "Desperado (album), a 1973 rock album by the Eagles 'Desperado' (song), a song by the Eagles" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperados
01:29:01 <nslater> .wik desperados beer
01:29:02 <phenny> "Fischer is a brewery in Schiltigheim, France." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperados_beer
01:29:11 <danja_> i dislike beer :O
01:29:17 <nslater> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Desperados.jpg
01:29:22 <nslater> you dont drink at all?
01:29:25 <[bjoern]> Well it's cheap and gets the job done, sometimes.
01:29:33 <nslater> depends on the job
01:29:33 <[bjoern]> "... and drinking red wine"
01:29:42 <nslater> oh
01:29:43 <danja_> I only like bailys and mint one red wine and thats probs about it :p
01:29:44 <nslater> i read it as:
01:29:53 <nslater> "lol im listening to dan and mum talking about drinking red wine :p"
01:30:06 <danja_> Oh lol ment and drinking red wine*
01:30:08 <nslater> i like wine too, tho im off it atm
01:30:14 <nslater> i like pinot gregio
01:30:25 <nslater> red wine makes me …
01:30:28 * [bjoern] takes note that nslater wouldn't find that conversation odd, compared to someone not drinking.
01:30:43 <nslater> ... lascivious
01:30:50 <nslater> so i try to avoid it, lest i make a fool of myself
01:30:52 <nslater> heh
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01:32:16 <nslater> hah!
01:32:27 <nslater> id like to think i froked her out with my red wine comment
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01:45:44 <[bjoern]> I only got that danja suddenly is 19 again.
01:48:09 <nslater> hehe
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01:50:48 <[bjoern]> .wik Dynamedion SoundDesign
01:50:50 <phenny> "Fabian Del Priore (* 27th of May, 1978 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany) is a composer, arranger and sound designer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Del_Priore
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02:16:46 <nslater> awesome:
02:16:47 <nslater> http://kottke.org/09/12/brilliant-frequent-flyer-miles-scheme
02:16:47 <Monty> hmm. i wish it be useful in clubs and you up2 atm?
02:20:19 <[bjoern]> the wsj article is a lot more comprehensible. but agreed.
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07:50:28 <Monty> welcome, scottrageous
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09:49:58 <Monty> it's xjrn!
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10:42:42 <Monty> yo [bjoern]!
10:43:06 <[bjoern]> My ALTGR+ß is broken (that's the backslash)
10:46:17 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm usable again, but still fixneedy
11:08:39 <sbp> yo
11:18:20 <[bjoern]> Greetings to you, Santa B. Palmer!
11:19:21 <[bjoern]> 100 minutes left for shopping here.
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11:37:06 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm https://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Special_Phone_numbers
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13:17:54 <[bjoern]> .ety element
13:17:55 <phenny> "c.1300, 'earth, air, fire, water,' from O.Fr. element, from L. elementem 'rudiment, first principle, matter in its most basic form,' origin unknown (translated Gk. stoikheion)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=element
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15:06:28 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/21/AR2009122103221_pf.html
15:06:28 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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15:48:02 <nsh> isn't quantitative easing a poll tax?
15:48:12 <nsh> you'd think people would be all rioty
15:53:49 <[bjoern]> What makes you think they are not?
16:06:25 <nsh> they must be rioting on the inside
16:06:42 <nsh> rioting against the singles chart machine
16:06:59 <nsh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StockFlow.gif
16:07:00 <nsh> fun
16:07:28 <[bjoern]> simpsons in japan television
16:07:49 <[bjoern]> .wik Battling seizure Robots
16:07:50 <phenny> "'Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo' is the season finale of The Simpsons' tenth season, which originally aired on May 16, 1999." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Minutes_over_Tokyo
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16:46:09 <[[sroracle]]> OhohoI made it to the topic
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17:28:36 <clsn> sbp and other grammar nerds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI8sG4i056o
17:29:33 <[bjoern]> first 30s scary
17:29:38 <[bjoern]> getting worse
17:29:49 * [bjoern] 's probably just too sober
17:30:12 <clsn> It is mercifully brief. But a semi-clever response to the ancient Who's On First sketch.
17:30:25 <[bjoern]> Which I don't know.
17:30:38 <clsn> Ah. Then that you should see. It's a classic.
17:30:57 <[bjoern]> Then I might have seen it but chose to forget.
17:31:00 <[bjoern]> It happens with classics.
17:31:20 <clsn> There are versions on youtube in shakespearean English, in all kinds of different dialects... Years'n'years ago a friend and I did one in Klingon.
17:31:55 <clsn> People were literally (by which I mean "literally", not "figuratively") rolling in the aisles when they realized what we were doing.
17:32:24 <[bjoern]> literature, figur...
17:32:35 <[bjoern]> .c figurature
17:32:36 <phenny> [bjoern]: Sorry, no result.
17:32:39 <[bjoern]> .gc figurature
17:32:40 <phenny> figurature: 33
17:34:11 <clsn> Figurature sounds like a sort of mass-noun for sculpture.\
17:34:25 <[bjoern]> .wik figurine
17:34:26 <phenny> "A figurine (a diminutive form of the word figure) is a statuette that represents a human, deity, or animal." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figurine
17:42:18 <[bjoern]> Hey clsn you are the resident yaml expert, no?
17:42:49 <clsn> [bjoern]: I sure as hell hope not; I hardly know squat about yaml. In fact, I may actually not even know squat.
17:42:58 <clsn> You must be thinking of a different clsn.
17:43:26 <[bjoern]> I just picked you because you seemed more alive than the rest.
17:43:55 <clsn> and because of my awesome good looks too, right? Right??
17:44:34 <[bjoern]> .gc "Those dollars are looking good on you"
17:44:35 <phenny> "Those dollars are looking good on you": 0
17:46:04 <clsn> Too bad; I'd hoped they'd be good for SOMEthing.
17:46:23 <[bjoern]> I am often thinking the same thing.
17:48:46 <sbp> offs. probably on tomorrow
17:48:49 <sbp> Merry Christmas
17:49:40 <[bjoern]> Santa B. Palmer is getting busy. Expect presents. Or Ruten.
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18:04:45 <[bjoern]> Solved the yaml problem and filed another MediaWiki bug...
18:12:00 <clsn> yay
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18:35:15 <clsn> If you can stand dancing furries: http://blip.tv/file/483380/
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20:02:34 <MoiraA> hello, back
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20:57:45 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Kurisumasu omedetou"?
20:57:46 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Kurisumasu OMEDETOU" (fil to en, translate.google.com)
20:57:55 <[bjoern]> phenny, ja en "Kurisumasu omedetou"?
20:57:56 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Kurisumasu omedetou" (ja to en, translate.google.com)
20:58:54 <[bjoern]> phenny, "クリスマス,おめでとう"?
20:58:55 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Christmas, Happy" (ja to en, translate.google.com)
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22:44:09 <[bjoern]> phenny, de nl "Mal sehen! Mit Schnee bestimmt!"?
22:44:10 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Laten we eens zien! Bepaald met sneeuw!" (de to nl, translate.google.com)
22:46:09 <charl> "Bepaald met sneeuw"?
22:46:52 <[bjoern]> phenny, nl "Bepaald"?
22:46:53 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Determined" (nl to en, translate.google.com)
22:47:08 <[bjoern]> The word here would be "certainly" I think
22:48:37 <charl> ah, yes
22:48:48 <charl> Wouldn't you usually say "bestimmt mit Schnee"?
22:49:24 <[bjoern]> It is an affirmation, "If by that time there is snow, then my answer is 'yes'"
22:50:07 <charl> ah!
22:53:26 <[bjoern]> phenny, de nl "Da frage ich mich: geht das auch mit anspruchsvolleren Texten, wie zum Beispiel diesem hier"?
22:53:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Dan vraag ik me af: Is dat ook met de meer veeleisende teksten, zoals deze" (de to nl, translate.google.com)
22:53:57 <charl> almost...
22:54:26 <charl> "Is dat ook" should be "Gaat dat ook" (geht das auch, should be a literal translation)
22:54:42 <charl> also it dropped the "hier"
22:55:15 <[bjoern]> I think that's quite okay, out of context the "hier" is redundant in the german text
22:55:42 <[bjoern]> with context, it could refer to a previous subject, or be a self-reference
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23:08:07 <[bjoern]> .gc "das ist deutschland hier"
23:08:08 <phenny> "das ist deutschland hier": 261
23:14:38 <[bjoern]> phenny, en nl "[during a crisis] I'm going into labor. This is not a good time, Keiko. It's not open for debate. Like it or not, this baby is coming."?
23:14:39 <phenny> [bjoern]: "[tijdens een crisis] Ik ga in arbeid. Dit is geen goede tijd, Keiko. Het is niet open voor discussie. Net als het of niet, is deze baby komt." (en to nl, translate.google.com)
23:16:27 <charl> haha, it doesn't recognize "I'm going into labor" as childbirth, it thinks it's arbeit.
23:16:50 <charl> This reminds me of that back-and-forth English-Chinese translator.
23:17:06 <[bjoern]> I think it is quite possible to collect testimony that it in fact is Arbeit.
23:17:27 <[bjoern]> .mangle Does this still work / work again?
23:17:33 <phenny> [bjoern]: Is it still work and work again?
23:18:02 <[bjoern]> .mangle Mangle used to and apparently still does run a string through google translate several times with several languages.
23:18:10 <phenny> [bjoern]: Mutilation, and always seems to be a string using Google Translate multiple times with different languages.
23:18:17 <[bjoern]> However, it used to be more hilarious previously.
23:21:54 <[bjoern]> .gc "Ist Mannsvolk anwesend"?
23:21:55 <phenny> "Ist Mannsvolk anwesend"?: 2
23:29:21 <[bjoern]> .c 42 F in C
23:29:22 <phenny> 42 degrees Fahrenheit = 5.55555556 degrees Celsius
23:29:24 <[bjoern]> .c 42 C in F
23:29:24 <phenny> 42 degrees Celsius = 107.6 degrees Fahrenheit
23:29:49 <[bjoern]> .c 42 K in F
23:29:50 <phenny> 42 kelvin = -384.07 degrees Fahrenheit
23:29:51 <[bjoern]> .c 42 K in C
23:29:52 <phenny> [bjoern]: Sorry, no result.
23:29:59 <[bjoern]> .c 42 kelvin in C
23:30:00 <phenny> 42 kelvin = -231.15 degrees Celsius
23:30:14 <charl> Bored, are we?
23:30:28 <[bjoern]> Well, chatting nearby.
23:30:35 <[bjoern]> Where there is no phenny, to my discomfort.
23:31:34 <charl> When is phenny getting upgraded to augmented reality?
23:31:56 <[bjoern]> When Monty goes into Arbeit.
23:31:57 <Monty> interesting.
23:32:45 <charl> haha.
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