Swhack! 11 January 2010
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03:07:51 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's Xanthor[aw]!
03:07:53 <Monty> lo davisp
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03:09:20 <Monty> lo ti`ocpi
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06:48:35 <Monty> hey ti`ocpi
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06:58:59 <Monty> hey ti`ocpi
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09:00:31 <[bjoern]> this.header.enabled = this.enabled && (!this.treeMapBranchData || !this.treeMapBranchData.displaySimple);
09:00:31 <[bjoern]> this.header.visible = this.treeMapBranchData.closed || !this.treeMapBranchData.displaySimple; -- that does not make sense, does it?
09:01:02 <[bjoern]> !this.treeMapBranchData would only ever be true if it can be null at that point, but when it is, the next line would throw an exception
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10:27:56 <sbp> yo
10:28:17 <sbp> phenny: tell [bjoern] yeah, it's been snow joke
10:28:17 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
10:36:10 <sbp> <KragenSitaker> I'm amused at the phrase "the Carolingian ruler Charlemagne"
10:36:18 <sbp> heh, yeah. I hadn't noticed that
10:41:26 <[bjoern]> Did I show you
10:41:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: 10:28Z <sbp> tell [bjoern] yeah, it's been snow joke
10:41:31 <[bjoern]> yesterday?
10:41:37 <sbp> nope
10:41:44 <[bjoern]> It shows how big the categories on de.wp are
10:42:01 <[bjoern]> (mentioning things multiple times if they occur in many categories)
10:42:29 <[bjoern]> Trying to figure out how to display *all* categories, here I've more or less randomly omitted most
10:42:33 <sbp> .leo Wissenschaft
10:42:35 <phenny> die Wissenschaft = scholarship, science, sciences
10:42:36 <phenny> empirische Wissenschaft = empirical science
10:42:37 <phenny> forensische Wissenschaft = forensic science
10:42:37 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Wissenschaft
10:42:40 <[bjoern]> (> 75 000 cats)
10:42:56 <sbp> yeah I suppose most categories would be too tiny?
10:43:39 <[bjoern]> Well size is not so much a problem as is duplicates
10:44:26 <[bjoern]> The root category is references about 130 million times indirectly
10:45:26 <[bjoern]> I can easily store the duplicates via references, but the treemap control does not like it
10:45:48 <[bjoern]> I could modify some things to change that with some effort, but then there'd still be a memory problem
10:46:55 <sbp> you ought to be doing this in SVG anyway
10:47:21 <[bjoern]> Will switch immediately the moment you've made SVG fast and wrote the replacement control...
10:47:43 <sbp> well Microsoft have joined the W3C SVG WG
10:47:49 <sbp> so it won't be long until SVG is fast
10:51:34 <sbp> {
10:51:36 <sbp> Thanks to the numbers written out on the Tuscania dice, there is agreement about the fact that zal, ci, huθ and śa are the numbers up to 6 (besides 1 and 5). The assignment depends on the answer to the question whether the numbers on opposite faces on Etruscan dice add up to seven, like nowadays. Some dice found don't show this proposed pattern.
10:51:45 <sbp> } from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_numerals
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13:21:11 <archels> [bjoern]: You into temporal logics any?
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13:57:46 <[bjoern]> Not professionally.
13:58:36 <sbp> so unprofessional
14:11:10 <[bjoern]> That would appear to be my style generally.
14:16:25 <sbp> okay, is there any way to find out what font a browser is pulling characters from when they're not being pulled out of the font specified in a stylesheet? happens normally for rare unicode characters that aren't available in the author specified font
14:21:02 <[bjoern]> Please constrain "any"
14:21:54 <sbp> any way that doesn't involve paying money to some entity
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14:22:32 <[bjoern]> You could make them render the characters really really big and then create a bitmap for the char in every font you've got and then compare the images
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15:23:28 <clsn> .title http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/lincoln_park_company_unveills.html
15:23:29 <phenny> clsn: Lincoln Park company unveils Roxxxy, 'world's first sex robot' | New Jersey Real-Time News - - NJ.com
15:25:07 <sbp> only problem with the doll is that it looks really scary
15:26:00 <archels> You're not masochistic enough to appreciate that, sbp.
15:26:41 <clsn> RealDoll™s have been around for ages, I'm surprised they don't mention them.
15:26:46 <clsn> .g realdoll
15:26:47 <phenny> clsn: http://www.realdoll.com/
15:27:08 <clsn> (was not sure they still existed, that's how long ago I last heard of them)
15:27:12 <clsn> .title
15:27:13 <phenny> clsn: Realdoll, The World's finest Love Doll
15:27:21 <archels> But those are even less animate.
15:27:46 <clsn> True, they don't move at all.
15:28:06 <sbp> archels: well it sounds like it was built to be comforting
15:28:27 <sbp> if it's a masochism doll then ought it not to be hurling abuse?
15:28:35 <archels> A comforting robot, with big tits and a fully featured vagina?
15:28:46 <clsn> I feel a great need to insert a crack here asking why the hell someone would want to go out of his way to *give* a sex-partner the power of speech.
15:28:48 <tav> hmz, "someone the owner can talk to and relate to"
15:28:48 <phenny> tav: 30 Dec 12:18Z <sbp> tell tav http://home.vicnet.net.au/~ozideas/index.html
15:30:31 <sbp> yeah, so perhaps it is consistent
15:30:49 <sbp> extrmely scary demeanour + the power of speech, adds up to horrour
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16:18:14 <nsh> .w tardive
16:18:14 <phenny> tardive — adjective: 1. (medicine) belated (of symptoms etc.)
16:18:25 <nsh> .oed tardive
16:18:26 <phenny> tardive (ety. mod. a. F. tardif, -ive: see ...) * a. Characterized by lateness, or tending to appear late; of late appearance or development., * b. Path. tardive dyskinesia, a neurological disorder, usu. a late-developing side-effect of long-term treatment with anti-psychotic drugs, which is...
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17:26:19 <[bjoern]> IESG just approved "Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Protocol" as proposed standard
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18:41:44 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's ephemerian!
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