Swhack! 16 February 2010
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06:35:37 <genoobie> wtf?
06:35:40 <genoobie> where am I
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15:46:07 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.panoramio.com/photo/16501202
15:46:08 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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15:47:31 <[bjoern]> 42,42 is http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6232476
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16:53:10 <BigJibby> http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2010/02/15/9963387.aspx
16:53:37 <BigJibby> http://i.imgur.com/IeCPC.jpg
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18:19:37 <i_virus> hi all
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18:22:05 <archels> aw, opportunity missed.
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19:33:08 <deltab> clsn: 950 Em, 0.95 Zm
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19:33:37 <deltab> .wa diameter of the milky way in zettametres
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20:06:48 <clsn> deltab: neeto. So 1 Zm is pretty close. Waitasec, 0.95 Zm, not 0.95 Em? I thought about 100,000 light years.
20:06:59 <clsn> .calc 100000 lightyears in exameters
20:07:01 <phenny> 100000 lightyears in exameters = 5912956545363/6250000000 (exactly 946.07304725808) exameters
20:07:15 <clsn> Woops, looks right then.
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20:09:09 <deltab> clsn: yes, 100 000 ly
20:10:56 <clsn> Mkay.
20:12:58 <deltab> http://midimagic.sgc-hosting.com/siscale.htm
20:14:45 <clsn> hmm, an electron as 1 pm while a proton is 1 fm? Can we even speak sensibly about the size of an electron? Cuz that sounds awfully skewed.
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20:19:20 <deltab> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_electron_radius
20:19:52 <deltab> http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00494.htm
20:22:00 <clsn> Hmm. How can http://midimagic.sgc-hosting.com/si.htm list the speed of light as a "base unit" of SI? It's a physical constant, but it isn't a base unit. And I'm not sure I agree with all its pronunciations of the prefixes.
20:22:17 <clsn> (the only time I've ever heard giga- pronounced as jigga- was in Back to the Future)
20:25:19 <clsn> "The gram must never be used to indicate weight, force, or pressure." Look, gram-force and kilogram-force as units have been around for a long long time. Just make sure you know which you're talking about.
20:26:46 <clsn> Bah. Lotta pedantry there. And I should know, being annoyingly pedantic myself.
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21:16:56 <deltab> where does it 'list the speed of light as a "base unit" of SI'?
21:21:51 <deltab> ah, I see it
21:22:14 <deltab> radian and steradian shouldn't be there either: they're supplementary
21:23:08 <deltab> and it's missing mol
21:47:42 <clsn> They're supplementary, but at least they're not derived.
21:48:36 <clsn> mol is a stupid base unit. It's basically a glorified conversion factor between emu and grams. Basic unit of amount of substance is ONE elementary unit, for crying out loud. And then you can use peta-s of those or whatever.
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21:49:01 <clsn> Um, amu and grams.
21:49:17 <sbp> clsn: the time resolution of SNTP is the same amount of time as it takes a photon to pass an electron
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21:49:55 <clsn> Does it pass it on the left or the right? And does it depend on the country? Or on whether the police are watching?
21:50:05 <clsn> (and in other news, wtf do you mean by that anyway?)
21:50:16 <sbp> if it's a wave it can pass on both sides
21:50:42 <sbp> alternative joke:
21:50:43 <clsn> Good point.
21:50:47 <sbp> the police would just wave it past
21:50:53 <clsn> Ugh.
21:50:58 <sbp> your choice
21:51:09 <clsn> Or the quantum way, do both.
21:51:16 <sbp> ENOUGH NOW
21:51:24 <sbp> phenny: ask [bjoern] the meaning of the winter scene
21:51:24 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
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23:15:17 <[bjoern]> http://www.panoramio.com/photo/12271286
23:15:18 <phenny> [bjoern]: 21:51Z <sbp> ask [bjoern] the meaning of the winter scene
23:15:32 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp coords.
23:15:33 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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