Swhack! 23 February 2010
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12:30:02 <sbp> yo
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13:44:37 <MoiraA> sbp
13:44:40 <MoiraA> just the person
13:44:46 <MoiraA> how can this nick work?
13:44:48 <MoiraA> 94SAAI95T
13:44:56 <MoiraA> thought they could not begin with digits
13:45:45 <MoiraA> or kpreid
13:46:11 <MoiraA> phenny, tell sbp that when he regains awareness could he have a look at this annoying puzzle of mine
13:46:12 <phenny> MoiraA: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
13:46:29 <sbp> hey
13:46:30 <phenny> sbp: 13:46Z <MoiraA> tell sbp that when he regains awareness could he have a look at this annoying puzzle of mine
13:46:35 <sbp> puzzle?
13:46:45 <MoiraA> 94SAAI95T
13:46:51 <MoiraA> how can that be an irc nick
13:47:16 <MoiraA> thought they could not begin with numbers
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13:48:53 <sbp> they can't, but some ircds are non RFC 1459 compliant I suppose
13:49:01 <sbp> I know they're non-compliant in other ways
13:49:07 <MoiraA> not freenode though
13:49:11 <MoiraA> surely
13:49:25 <sbp> well you can't start a nickname with a digit on freenode at least
13:49:34 <MoiraA> this guy is in defocus
13:49:39 <sbp> oh, hmm
13:49:43 <MoiraA> this is what is puzzling me
13:50:47 <sbp> yeah, that is pretty weird
13:50:56 <MoiraA> did you hear mquin?
13:51:02 <MoiraA> he says it is a IUD
13:51:16 <MoiraA> not sure if he was talking about his visit to the family planning clinic or the nick
13:51:25 <sbp> oh, must be some crazy new ircd thing I guess
13:51:39 <MoiraA> I don't care - it looks like a nick to me
13:52:16 <sbp> same
13:54:15 <MoiraA> aha
13:54:16 <MoiraA> [13:53] <bburhans> mquin: it's just to replace a nick collision in seven
13:54:17 <MoiraA> [13:53] <Elfix> mquin: on the testnet my nick was once changed to that kind of "UID", instead of being killed for nick collision. I don't know if it's related for this case.
13:54:41 <sbp> "in seven"?
13:56:28 <MoiraA> ircd-seven
13:56:30 <MoiraA> http://www.leeh.co.uk/ircd/TS6.txt
13:56:31 <MoiraA> there
13:56:33 <spb> the new ircd resolves nickname collisions by force-changing your nickname to your UID instead of killing you
13:56:35 <MoiraA> explanation
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13:56:43 <MoiraA> basically
13:56:51 <MoiraA> bit more complex
13:57:29 <MoiraA> UID - An ID concateneted to a SID. This forms the clients UID.
13:57:32 <spb> nicknames can't start with a number unless they're UIDs, which always start with a number
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13:57:51 <MoiraA> there are SIDs IDs UIDs and TS6
13:58:02 <spb> and you can only use your UID as a nickname if you're force-changed to it by a nick collision
13:58:17 <MoiraA> basically that seems to be what this document says
13:58:22 <MoiraA> in a more long winded way
13:59:22 <sbp> so no longer RFC 1459 compliant?
13:59:30 <sbp> also, what happens if the UID collides too?
13:59:42 <spb> UIDs never collide
13:59:44 <sbp> oh, I guess the UID can't collide, presume... right
13:59:45 <spb> that's the point of them
13:59:58 <sbp> which is why they're being used here. okay, I see
14:00:09 <spb> as for rfc1459, it depends what you mean by "compliant"
14:00:11 <sbp> even if it is all evil and non-compliant. so much evil in the world!
14:00:21 <sbp> well the grammar is pretty clear on nicknames
14:00:53 <sbp> but I don't give a toss to be honest, IRC is just a mess of cogs and sprockets held together with Joan Rivers's bubblegum
14:01:31 <sbp> adding a cog here, a sprocket there, a bit of lipstick here isn't really going to hurt it...
14:02:45 <spb> 1459 is essentially only useful for describing the basic client protocol
14:03:04 <spb> anything regarding server internals or server-to-server protocol has been completely redone several times
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14:08:46 <Jibbler> hardly any irc servers abide by all of the original rfc's restrictions - most let you have nicknames longer than 9 characters for a start
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14:24:37 <[bjoern]> nu
14:25:39 <sbp> nubuntu
14:26:06 <sbp> ∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂∂
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21:52:25 <sbp> yo
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23:12:08 <[bjoern]> .gc +"beach-yeti"
23:12:09 <phenny> +"beach-yeti": 15
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23:25:37 <[[sroracle]]> .gc +"albino lifeguard"
23:25:38 <phenny> +"albino lifeguard": 85
23:25:41 <[[sroracle]]> >.<
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